Shia Muslims targeted in Bomb attack in Pakistan, 53 killed

(By Telegraph) Bomb attacks have killed 53 people in Pakistan, as David Cameron called for tough action against terrorism during a visit to the capital.

People shift bodies of the victims of a suicide bomb attack targeting Shia Muslims in Quetta

People shift bodies of the victims of a suicide bomb attack targeting Shia Muslims in Quetta

In the two deadliest attacks a suicide bomber killed 28 people at a checkpoint near a Shia Muslim mosque in the southwestern city of Quetta, and a car bombing killed 17 in the northwest.

The combined toll marked the deadliest day for more than four months in the nuclear-armed state, which is battling homegrown extremism and is on the frontline of the US-led war against Al-Qaeda.

Pakistani rescuers and security officials gather at the suicide attack site in Quetta

In Quetta, officials said a suicide bomber tried to access a Shiite mosque in the congested Hazara town, a mainly Shiite community on the edge of the city, but was intercepted at a checkpoint.

“Twenty-eight people have been killed and more than 51 others are injured,” said senior police official Mir Zubair.

“Nine women, a minor girl and four boys were also killed in the attack,” Mr Zubair told reporters.

Baluchistan provincial home secretary Akbar Hussain Durrani said the bomber blew himself up at a checkpoint set up by a local neighbourhood volunteers around 50 yards away from the mosque.

“The evening prayers had just ended in the mosque and most of the victims are Shia Muslims,” he told AFP.

Quetta is one of the most volatile cities in Pakistan, gripped by Taliban violence, a separatist Baluch insurgency and a growing number of attacks on the Shiite minority.

Hazara Town in particular has been a flashpoint for attacks on Shiites and the minority Hazara ethnic group.

Earlier, while Mr Cameron was holding talks with new Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Islamabad, a car bomb targeted a security force convoy on the outskirts of Peshawar, not far from the semi-autonomous tribal belt where Taliban and Al-Qaeda-linked groups have bases.

Jamil Shah, spokesman for the government-run Lady Reading Hospital in the city, said 17 people were killed and 46 injured.

At least four children and one woman were among the dead, and two children and a woman were among those hurt, he added.

Police said most of the victims were civilians because the bomb targeting the Frontier Corps (FC) convoy exploded in a bustling market area.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility but the Pakistani Taliban frequently targets security forces as part of a seven-year domestic insurgency that has killed thousands of Pakistanis.

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    This is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

    Dissonance increases with:
    • The importance of the subject to us.
    • How strongly the dissonant thoughts conflict.
    • Our inability to rationalize and explain away the conflict.

    Dissonance is often strong when we believe something about ourselves and then do something against that belief. If I believe I am good but do something bad, then the discomfort I feel as a result is cognitive dissonance.

    Cognitive dissonance is a very powerful motivator which will often lead us to change one or other of the conflicting belief or action. The discomfort often feels like a tension between the two opposing thoughts. To release the tension we can take one of three actions:
    • Change our behavior.
    • Justify our behavior by changing the conflicting cognition.
    • Justify our behavior by adding new cognitions.

    Dissonance is most powerful when it is about our self-image. Feelings of foolishness, immorality and so on (including internal projections during decision-making) are dissonance in action.

    If an action has been completed and cannot be undone, then the after-the-fact dissonance compels us to change our beliefs. If beliefs are moved, then the dissonance appears during decision-making, forcing us to take actions we would not have taken before.
    Cognitive dissonance appears in virtually all evaluations and decisions and is the central mechanism by which we experience new differences in the world. When we see other people behave differently to our images of them, when we hold any conflicting thoughts, we experience dissonance.

    Dissonance increases with the importance and impact of the decision, along with the difficulty of reversing it. Discomfort about making the wrong choice of car is bigger than when choosing a lamp.

    Religion and Cognitive Dissonance

    Cognitive dissonance is the discomfort of holding two contradictory beliefs. We all have them. Common ways of dealing: abandoning one of the beliefs (not very common), rationalizing (more common), creating some third overarching belief that incorporates the other two (quite common).
    The negative spiritual and intellectual consequence of believing two mutually exclusive concepts is “cognitive dissonance.” Our interaction as a society with Islam is a direct cause of cognitive dissonance, for us as individuals and as a culture.

    Resolution of the contradiction requires the rejection of one of the concepts. If we continue to ignore our cognitive dissonance about Islam, the consequences will be dire: we will lose our civilization.

    Islam is much more than a religion; it is a complete civilization that includes politics (caliphate), jurisprudence (Sharia law), war (jihad), and a deliberately misleading “religion of peace.” The doctrine of Islam is found in three books: Quran (the literal word of Allah as “revealed” to Mohammed), Sira (Mohammad’s biography), and Hadith (stories about and sayings of Mohammed as reported by contemporaries). The definitive text of Sharia law is “Reliance of the Traveller.” Allah and Mohammed are to be obeyed, not questioned. “Islam” means “submission”; a Muslim is “one who submits.” “Islam” does not mean “peace.”

    Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers. (Quran, 3:32)

    O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Apostle and do not turn back from Him while you hear. (Quran, 8:20)

    O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (Quran, 9:123)

    The purpose of the Islamic doctrine is the destruction of all cultures not Islamic and the expansion of Islam and Shariah law throughout the world.

    O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort. (Quran, 66:9)

    Saed had been right about taking prisoners after the battle: take no prisoners until Islam has made all submit. They were to forget the ransom and the money, Mohammed said, because submission of the non-believers was all that mattered. (Sira:Ishaq:484 – Mohammed and the Unbelievers: A Political Life, Center for the Study of Political Islam, 2006, p.71)

    And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors. (Quran, 2:193)

    It is difficult for many to accept that such an ideology can be real and that people kill and die for it; we see the truth of Islam in word and deed but pretend that it is not so. According to Sharia law (Islamic law) Islam abrogates, that is “cancels,” all other religions.

    Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras, as is attested to by many verses of the Holy Quran, but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam as is equally attested to by many verses of the Quran.

    … It is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as “Christianity” or “Judaism,” are acceptable to Allah Most High after He has sent the final Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) to the entire world. (Reliance of the Traveller, w4.0[2])

    Our national cognitive dissonance began immediately after 9/11, when President George Bush visited the Islamic Center of Washington on September 17, 2001, and said, “Islam is peace.” President Obama has reiterated this misperception of Islam specifically in his recent speech of apology in Cairo to the “Muslim World.”

    The contradiction of Islam upon which our cognitive dissonance is based is this:

    Islam is benevolent and peaceful, and Islam is violent and hostile. Both positions cannot be true.

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Quran:9:29)

    You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. (Quran, 4:91)

    Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah ‘s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)” (Bukhari, Hadith, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 196)

    The majority of the doctrine of Islam is about how Muslims are to interact with non-Muslims; it is essentially about the rest of us. Statistical analysis of the doctrine of Islam by Dr. Bill Warner of the Center for the Study of Political Islam is enlightening:
    • 62% of Quran is devoted to how Islam interacts with the kafir (the unbeliever).
    • 98% of the Sira is devoted to the struggle against kafirs. (70% is jihad; 28% is argument and insults.)
    • 20% of Bukhari Hadith is devoted to jihad.
    The evidence to resolve our societal cognitive dissonance about Islam is readily available and painfully obvious.

    Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. (Quran, 98:6)

    Islamist mass murderers and terrorists/jihadists are not “hijackers” or “misunderstanders” of Islam; they are the devout followers of a political ideology that is hostile to our existence because we are not Muslims.

    We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. (Quran, 3:151)

    Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due (jizya tax), then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (Quran, 9:5)

    The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) which is under a cloud of suspicion (see “Muslim Mafia” by P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry) has been the leading espouser of Islamic “understanding” in America. CAIR’s mission statement that it is “to be a leading advocate for justice and mutual understanding” is not, according to their founder, their true purpose.

    Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “Khosrau will be ruined, and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him, and you will spend their treasures in Allah’s Cause.” He called, ‘War is deceit’. (Bukhari, Hadith, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 267)

    CAIR’s founder, Omar Ahmad, said in 1998 that “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran … should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.” (San Ramon, CA., Valley Herald, 7/04/1998.)

    So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour. (Quran, 25:52)

    If our culture and society are to survive, we must accept the truth of the world and of Islam whether or not we prefer it.

    Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. (Quran, 2:216)

    Our cognitive dissonance will be resolved only with honesty and knowledge. Islam is not a “religion of peace.” If we are unsuccessful in resolving the cognitive dissonance which results from our confused view of Islam, we will lose our civilization.

    Many Islamist writers contend Wahhabism is an “extreme” version of Islam. Yet when I’ve asked whether such “extremism” is inevitable if one interprets relevant Quranic guidance literally, a clear answer has been elusive.
    While Wahhabism might be an extreme variant of Islam, since it is based on the Quran the problem might also be that Islamic ideology itself lends scriptural support to the surge of terrorism within Islam.
    It is at this crucial point where, in my opinion, modern Islamists tend to become vague, or play semantic games.
    If historical Islam is simply one of several interpretive possibilities, then the extreme version must also be acknowledged as one such possibility, regardless of how often historically it was adopted by Muslim cultures. The legacy of its limited popularity must not negate its interpretive possibility, especially in the face of glaring evidence that Wahhabism is THE chosen version of Islam by the Saudi Islamic theocracy.
    It seems by calling Wahhabists “extremists”, but refusing to confirm they are “wrong”, Islamists tend to jettison responsibility for pro-actively stamping out terrorist elements within their societies. This tendency is, however, not unusual in human history.
    Recently I was reading a book by Gavin De Becker, titled “The Gift of Fear,” in which he asserts: “even in a gathering of aberrant murderers there is something of you and me. When we accept this, we are more likely to recognize the rapist who tries to con his way into our home, the child molester who applies to be a baby-sitter, the spousal killer at the office, the assassin in the crowd. When we accept that violence is committed by people who look and act like people, we silence the voice of denial, the voice that whispers, “This guy doesn’t look like a killer.”” [p. 46]
    This denial may be quite similar to “cognitive dissonance,” a phrase coined by Leon Festinger. Most likely due to this, Muslims tend to have difficulty admitting that culturally, philosophically and doctrinally Islam has interpretive potential to instigate violence against non-Muslims. Instead they seem only too quick to label all such violence un-Islamic and declare the perpetrators “different” and/or “aberrant”—-even if some Islamic murderers claim that they were “Quranically-inspired.”
    Interestingly this “aberration” is seldom apparent before those murders occur, even though in hindsight apologists assign that label swiftly. This denial or cognitive dissonance most likely prevents otherwise peace-loving majority Muslims from pro-actively controlling their small, but virulent, radical brethren.
    As to how this dissonance serves to help Islamic extremists to continue, Muslim apologists seem to suffer a severe case of denial to acknowledge and admit. The denial is irresponsible, because failure to suppress Islamic radicalism does not appear to corroborate the claim made by majority Muslims that Islam is a religion of peace.
    We must note, as objectivist Ayn Rand also contended, that when it comes to religious arguments, “contradictions are possible and A is non-A”. It is therefore not surprising that many Muslim faithful have difficulty to admit the Quran may lend itself to violent interpretations. They are programmed since childhood to “believe” it is the final, perfect book from Allah. Their perception of Allah is peaceful, no matter how many Quranic verses can be offered in rebuttal of, or as a challenge to, that perception. Moreover, lacking the heritage comparable to the Period of Enlightenment and thereafter, when religious criticism became acceptable as part of academic and social discourse in Europe, many Muslim intellectuals seem plagued by denial that literal Quranic interpretation could very well lend itself to extremism. The darkest spot in their religious cognition lies beneath their “cherry-picked” perception of Islam!
    For Muslims at large this may be a short-lived state of cognitive flux as they evolve to greater intellectual maturity and find their own version of the enlightenment which would allow them to “privatize” Islam, focusing on its intellectual positives and rejecting its arguable and dogmatic negatives. They ought to allow critiques of Quranic commandments as part of people’s freedom of speech, without fear of fatwas, to help develop a cognitive measure of the world in broader, more universal and humanistic terms, rather than the arbitrary, divisive and narrow perspective of “Muslims” versus “kaffirs.”
    Apart from the faith of die-hard Muslims, about it there is hardly any material evidence that in cases of accidents, deaths, and natural disasters that Allah has been anymore protective of Muslims–the upholders of His allegedly final and perfect “comprehensive guidance”—than he has been of all of humankind. Observable facts seem to contradict any claim of superiority or closeness in the eye of Allah that, by sheer “belief,” many Muslims consider to be fact. Gavin De Becker maintains: “Aside from outright denial of intuitive signals, there is another way we get into trouble. Our intuition fails when it is loaded with inaccurate information. Since we are the editors of what gets in and what is invested with credibility, it is important to evaluate our sources of information.” [p. 36]
    Isn’t it high time for Muslims to re-consider the denial of their intuitive signals and evaluate the source of their “belief” in light of factual evidence? Isn’t it time to explore inward, while also seeking to understand external reasons why conditions in Islamic countries appear so dismal, even though the faith/hope remains engorged over an Islamic heaven in afterlife, with (some contend) promise of 72 young women for each Muslim man? [took out the DEEN reference.]
    In addition to simply blaming the West, perhaps Muslims could also take pro-active measures to stamp out bullying by Islamists in their societies–both in their native lands as well as throughout the global Islamic Diaspora? While Western imperialist forces may have contributed to the recent rise of Islamic fundamentalism, that cannot be the sole reason. Life is seldom purely black or white unless a religious ostrich denies the vast grey sea of reality, in which humans, including Muslims, often find themselves.
    Perhaps it is time for Muslim intellectuals to acknowledge the elements within the Quran that have served to instigate interpretive radicalism, and propose their marginalization using humanist perspectives? Given the track record of Islamic radicals, any such de-prioritizing ought to be understood by Allah, who is claimed to love everyone equally and whose latest dicta aka Islam is claimed to be a religion of peace.
    Might it be blasphemous to also suggest Allah will accept private/individual interpretations of His commandments? Might those be any more speculative than interpretations by charlatans—apologists who have no way to confirm if their translations are in line with His actual wishes? After all, Allah seems to have taken a long sabbatical since his last alleged visit(s) to the Middle East.
    And surely thou hast sublime morals
    (Surat Al-Qalam 68:4).

    Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar
    (Surat Al-Ahzab 33:21).

    Muslims believe that the Koran is the eternal word/laws of god to acts as a divine guidance for mankind about how to live a moral, righteous life. Prophet Muhammad, the highest perfection of human life and the prototype of the most wonderful human conduct in Islamic belief, emulated the guidance of Allah perfectly.

    Muhammad fantasized about baby Aisha before soliciting her from her father

    Sahih Bukhari 9.140 Narrated ‘Aisha:

    Allah’s apostle said to me, “you were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, ‘uncover (her),’ and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), ‘if this is from Allah, then it must happen.

    Sahih al-Bukhari, volume 7, book 62, number 17 Narrated jabir bin ‘abdullah:

    When I got married, Allah’s apostle said to me, “what type of lady have you married?” I replied, “I have married a matron.” he said, “why, don’t you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?” Jabir also said: Allah’s apostle said, “why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?”

    Muhammad, 50, marries baby Aisha at age 6

    Sahih Bukhari volume 5, book 58, number 234

    Narrated Aisha: the prophet engaged (married) me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, um ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me.

    …….she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some ansari women who said, “best wishes and Allah’s blessing and a good luck.” then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

    Bukhari vol 8, bk 73, no 151

    Narrated ‘Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the prophet, & my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the prophet would call them to join & play with me. (the playing with the dolls & similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-bari page 143, vol.13)
    The Qur’an and Marrying Little Girls

    Islam does allow you to marry pre-menstruating girls. The following verse is from At-Talaq (or Divorce). Islam’s main concern during a divorce is knowing who the father is (in case of a pregnancy). The waiting period is known as iddah.

    65.4 Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if you have any doubts, is three months, AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO COURSES (it is the same): for those who are pregnant, their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make things easy for them.

    Tafsir al-Jalalayn (Commentary)
    And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have NOT YET MENSTRUATED, because of their YOUNG AGE, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

    Tafsir Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahid
    (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan Abu’l-Azhar Asbat ibn Muhammad Mutarrif Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.

    Islamic Website
    “And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise…”

    Tafsir ibn Kathir (Read at your own leisure)

    Western Islam
    Western Muslims are typically quite embarrassed by the fact that Muhammad had sex with a nine-year-old girl, and Muslim apologists are doing everything in their power to rewrite history in order to rescue their prophet from criticism. But are they willing to rewrite the Qur’an as well?

    According to Surah 2:228, if a Muslim man wants to divorce his wife, he should wait until she has gone through three monthly cycles (i.e. three periods). But the question later arose: What are men who want a divorce supposed to do when their wives, for whatever reason, do not have monthly cycles? The Qur’an answers this question in Surah 65:4, where it gives divorce rules for (1) women who do not have monthly cycles because they are too old, (2) girls who do not have monthly cycles because they are too young, and (3) women and girls who do not have monthly cycles because they are pregnant. The verse declares that, if Muslim men want to divorce girls who haven’t yet reached puberty, they must wait three months (after having sex with them).

    Here are some translations of Surah 65:4.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Shakir)–And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Arberry)–As for your women who have despaired of further menstruating, if you are in doubt, their period shall be three months; and those who have not menstruated as yet. And those who are with child, their term is when they bring forth their burden. Whoso fears God, God will appoint for him, of His command, easiness.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Yusuf Ali)–Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Hilali-Khan)–And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] . And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Sher Ali)–And if you are in doubt as to the prescribed period for such of your women as have despaired of monthly courses, then know that the prescribed period for them is three months, and also for such as do not have their monthly courses yet. And as for those who are with child, their period shall be until they are delivered of their burden. And whoso fears ALLAH, HE will provide facilities for him in his affair.

    Qur’an 65:4 (Rodwell)–As to such of your wives as have no hope of the recurrence of their times, if ye have doubts in regard to them, then reckon three months, and let the same be the term of those who have not yet had them. And as to those who are with child, their period shall be until they are delivered of their burden. God will make His command easy to him who feareth Him.

    Here are three classic Muslim commentaries on 65:4.

    Tafsir Ibn Kathir (on Qur’an 65:4)—Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. [see 2:228] The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.

    Tafsir al-Jalalayn (on Qur’an 65:4)—And [as for] those of your women who (read allà’ï or allà’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months.

    Tafsir Ibn Abbas (on Qur’an 65:4)—(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months.

    For Muslims who want to say that this verse could refer to divorcing prepubescent girls whose husbands haven’t had sex with them, the Qur’an refutes this claim. Surah 33:49 says that there is no waiting period if a man has not had sex with his bride.

    Qur’an 33:49–O ye who believe! When ye marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of ‘Iddat have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present. And set them free in a handsome manner.

    Hence, the Qur’an says that there is no waiting period if a man hasn’t had sex with his bride, and the Qur’an prescribes a waiting period for men who want to divorce their prepubescent child-brides. This presupposes that the men have had sex with them, which means that the Qur’an allows sex with prepubescent girls. This shouldn’t be surprising, since Muhammad himself had sex with a girl who hadn’t reached puberty.

    Quran 65.4 “and those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their p The most striking thing about his statement, however, was that it was not an apology; it was a logical, proud justification for preserving the death penalty as a punishment for apostasy. Al-Qaradawi sounded matter-of-fact, indicating no moral conflict, nor even hesitation, about this policy in Islam. On the contrary, he asserted the legitimacy of Islamic laws in relying on vigilante street justice through fear, intimidation, torture & murder against any person who might dare to leave Islam.

    (3 periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. They are still immature) their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death] .

    And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their ‘iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to him, he will make his matter easy for him.”

    Sura (65:4) lays down rules for divorce and sets the prescribed period for divorce. It clearly says, Muslim men can marry (and divorce) little girls who have not yet reached menstruation age. This means that Muslim men were allowed to marry baby girls. This is the eternal word of god. This is an eternal law of Allah. All Muslims must believe in this teaching. Otherwise, they are no longer Muslims but apostates of Islam.
    Some Muslims appeal to The Reliance on the Traveler to prove that Islam does not allow sex with prepubescent girls. I don’t think they have even read this book.

    We read in Book N section 9.0 that the Ida is for ” O: Meaning the period in which a woman waits (N: before she may remarry) to verify that she is not pregnant, or out of mourning for her deceased husband.)”

    We then read in Section 9.1 that

    “n9.1 There is no waiting period for a woman divorced before having had sexual intercourse with her Husband.”

    So we can see that the waiting period is to make sure the woman is not pregnant, and two that there is no waiting period if you had not had sexual intercourse with her.

    And finally in section 9.2 we read.

    n9.2 A waiting period is obligatory for a woman divorced after intercourse, whether the husband and
    wife are prepubescent, have reached puberty, or one has and the other has not.

    That the waiting period is OBLIGATORY for a woman after intercourse. Doesn’t matter if the girl has reached puberty or not.

    Now let us see how it is practiced on a female child & who began this evil practice. According to an official Fatwa issued in Saudi Arabia, the prophet Muhammad began to practice thighing his child-bride, Aisha when she was 6 years old until she reached 9 years of age (Fatwa No. 31409). The hadith, which was quoted earlier, mentioned the prophet Muhammad started performing literal sex with Aisha ONLY when she reached the age of 9 (Sahih al-Bukhari, book 62, hadith No. 89).

    Muslim scholars collectively agree, a child becomes an adult, available for sexual intercourse as soon as she reaches the age of nine. Likewise, the Shari’a allows any of the faithful to marry a six-year-old child.
    According to the fatwa, the prophet Muhammad could not have sex with his fiancée, Aisha when she was six due to her small size & age. However, the fatwa said that at age six, he would put his penis between her thighs and massage it gently because he did not want to harm her.

    Imagine a man of 51 removing the clothes of a 6-year-old girl and slipping his erect penis between her thighs, rubbing her until he ejaculated and his semen ran down her thighs. To this day, this is considered a benevolent act on the part of the adult male “not wanting to harm her.” What harm could be inflicted upon a young girl mentally and emotionally if not a grown man showing her his penis and stripping her of her clothes and rubbing his male organ between her legs?

    Of course the twisted mind that does such an evil to a female child, would not hesitate to ejaculate on her body. And if this sexually perverted evil frame of mind committed such an act upon a child, the pedophile would not stop at ejaculating on her. His evil desire would go further and rape the child before she was a mature adult. This is exactly what Muhammad did to Aisha when she was yet a child of 9.

    Before she reached puberty, he began to have sex with her. Let us see what the fatwa said about the prophet of Islam and his child-bride, Aisha.“Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the one after whom there is no [further] prophet. After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwas (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad Al-Shamari, with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421(Islamic calendar).

    The inquirer asked the following:‘It has become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufakhathat of the children (mufakhathat literally translated means “placing between the thighs of children” which means placing the male erected penis between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars knowing full well that the prophet, the peace and prayers of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha – the mother of believers ?’
    After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply: ‘It has not been the practice of the Muslims throughout the centuries to resort to this unlawful practice that has come to our countries from pornographic movies that the kofar (infidels) and enemies of Islam send. As for the Prophet, peace and prayers of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age.

    That is why the prophet peace and prayers of Allah be upon him placed his penis between her thighs and massaged it lightly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his penis not like other believers’” (Fatwa No. 31409).

    Thighing of children is practiced in many Arab and Muslim countries, notably in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, and the Gulf countries. Also evil practices like altamatu’a bil almuka’aba (pleasure from sexual contact with her breasts), altamatu’a bil alsagirah (pleasure from sexual contact with a baby girl), altamatu’a bil alradi’ah, (pleasure from sexual contact with a suckling female infant), (Reported by Baharini Women’s Rights Activist, Ghada Jamshir)

    Mohammed heard one of his wives was leaving him, so he rushed home where he found her on the carpet in front of the tent with her belongings; he sat down beside her & said, “I heard you were planning to leave me?”
    She replied, “Yes, I heard your other wives saying, you were a pedophile!”
    Mohammed thinks for a minute or so & then responds,
    “that’s a mighty big word for a 6 year old child.”

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    Sahih Muslim Book 08. N 3371Marriage

    Chapter: Al-Azl (incomplete sexual intercourse): Coitus Interruptus.

    Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him) mentioning al-‘azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them.
    So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?

    So we asked Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.


    His time to leave it came so soon,
    He left no son to fill his room.
    With not one verse in the Quran,
    His hyenas do not know where he’s gone!

    He lived a life that served him well,
    But is he well right now? Muslims can’t tell.
    Much things he taught they do deny,
    We keep on asking them, Why? Why? Why?

    Do I detect embarrassment,
    When to the world those writing’s went?
    The prophet of Arabia,
    How could he be your savior?

    His outward form of manliness,
    To us it seems so meaningless.
    He fought much battles, gained much hoard,
    And murdered so many by the sword.

    To those who lust it seems so nice,
    He promised more in Paradise!
    Now when your time draws near to leave,
    Will you still be so sure what you believe?

    This may sound like a fairy tale,
    But one day soon your life will fail.
    To follow him I’m not content,
    Until I know which way he went!

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