Cover Ganesh idol for ‘namaz’, else we will arrest you : Police to Hindus


Mumbai : ACP Prakash Landge issued a ‘Tughalaki’ order on Fridaythat the idol of Shri Ganesha installed by ‘Dharavicha Raja’, the famous Ganesha Mandal from Dharavi, should be covered for Friday’s ‘namaz’,and threatened to put them behind bars those who disobeyed the order.1379421972_IMG_0405

(Do such police belong to India or Pakistan ? Police issuing such orders, can issue orders to not celebrate Ganesha Festival in future. Hindus need to establish Hindu Rashtra before such situation arises ! – Editor, Dainik Sanatan Prabhat) Every Friday, ‘namaz’ is read in front of this ‘Mandal’. This ‘mandal’ has been celebrating Ganesha Festival at the same place for the past 35 years.

Muslims gathered before the pandal for Namaz

The young office bearers of the said ‘Mandal’ were issued a notice by Landge on Thursday that to facilitate Muslims to read ‘namaz’ on Friday, the idol of Ganesha should be kept covered; but the ‘Mandal’ refused to do so. Then Landge abused the office bearers of Mandal and threatened them with arrest, banishing them, destroying their life etc. and called Hindus to police station in the night. The office bearers of Mandal were warned of communal rift. (It is the duty of the police to maintain peace and harmony. Why should Hindus’ Ganesha idol should be covered for the same ? If police are so scared of riots, why didn’t they stop Muslims from reading ‘namaz’ there ? Is it because R. R. Patil’s police don’t have guts ? – Editor, Dainik Sanatan Prabhat)

Hindus do not bow !

The local Muslims had not made demand of covering Ganesha idol. Even then, Landge issued such order and Hindus strongly opposed; therefore, there was tension in Dharavi area. Police called Hindus to police station and tried to pressurize them in every possible manner; but the office bearers of ‘Mandal’ did not bow before police. Finally, Muslims gathered before the marquee at 1.00 p.m. on Friday; but as Hindus did not pay heed, Muslims had to read ‘namaz’ in front of Shri Ganesha idol.

Before ‘namaz’, Landge, senior police inspector Ambadas Pawar, Dy. Commissioner of Police Kulkarni etc. had upped security at the site along with State Reserve Police Force and policemen in plain clothes.(Had some untoward incident occurred there, it is doubtful whether police would have taken Hindus’ side ! – Editor, Dainik Sanatan Prabhat) Till 1.20 p.m., ‘namaz’ was read. Shiv Sena’s former MLA, Baburao Mane, Shiv Sena’s Dy. Area-Chief Shri. Muttu Tevar, municipal councillor, Shri. Rajendra Suryavanshi, former municipal councillor, Shri. Vitthal Pawar, Dharavi’s former BJP President Shri. Ramakant Gupta, advocate Sandip Katake, office bearers of VHP, Bajarang Dal etc. also were present there. (Congratulations to devout Hindus coming together for protection of Hindus ! – Editor, Dainik Sanatan Prabhat)

Although no untoward incident occurred at that place, pro-Hindu activists and Muslims have accused the police of creating tension during Ganesha Festival which is being celebrated there for 35 years. Hindu activists were asking whether police bullying Hindus, would resort to such intimidation on the occasion of Eid.

Source : Dainik Sanatan Prabhat

10 thoughts on “Cover Ganesh idol for ‘namaz’, else we will arrest you : Police to Hindus

  1. Dear Raj, could Modi be responsible for the Delhi gang rape?

    I dreamt of somebody of Modi’s image, ordering the Delhi gang rape secretly, to gain political mileage and I don’t think Indians are as dirty as Modi wants the Media to portray them to be, just to “show” the incapability of the Sonia government to enhance the Image building of the Indians, may be!!

    Are they as dirty as Modi wants us to believe???

    Modi IS NO good…I feel the delhi gang rape was his doing!!!!

    Regards

    Plum

  2. Lucky/Raj, you said, “So, if Muslims think that what Allah’s words in the Quran say forms inviolable foundation of Islam, then they must obey Prophet Muhammad’s personal recommendations and commands too”, correct?

    To “Obey” means to believe in him as a person to whom the revelation is being made and to accept and follow him specifically in relation to that revelation. In brief, not to deny him as that would be denying the revelation he received which equates to zero!!

    Quran strictly forbids to what you allege : “they must obey Prophet Muhammad’s personal recommendations and commands too”.

    6:114 Pickthall: Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained?

    45:6 Pickthall: These are the portents of Allah which We recite unto thee (Muhammad) with truth. Then in what fact, after Allah and His portents, will they believe?

    7:2 (SI) : [This is] a Book revealed to you, [O Muhammad] – so let there not be in your breast distress therefrom – that you may warn thereby and as a reminder to the believers.
    (note : “may warn thereby”)

    7:3 Yusuf Ali: Follow (O men!) the revelation given unto you from your Lord, and follow not, as friends or protectors, other than Him.

    31:6 Yusuf Ali: But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path)

    77:50 (SI) : Then in what statement after the Qur’an will they believe?

    46:9 (SI) : Say, “I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner.”

    33:62 Shakir: (Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah.

    And finally, read this very carefully : 5:48 (SI) : And We have revealed to you, [O Muúammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth.

    The Quran does NOT say to follow anything besides the Quran, a criteria for Judgement.

    “So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth”.

    The Messenger was to judge by what Allah revealed and not follow his inclinations. Do you get that?????

    Regards

    Plum

    • Lucky Raj, read this verse :

      5:99 Pickthall: The duty of the messenger is only to convey (the message). Allah knoweth what ye proclaim and what ye hide.

      In what other clearer terms should the Quran explain? Can you suggest one???

      Please suggest only one, okay??

      Regards

      Plum

  3. MOHAMMEDANS TURN THEIR PROPHET INTO AN IDOL

    QURAN TEACHES SHIRK

    1. Quran 3.32: “Say: “Obey Allah and His Messenger”: But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith.”
    2. Quran 4.13: “Those are limits set by Allah: those who obey Allah and His Messenger will be admitted to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath…”
    3. Quran 4.59: “O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger…”
    4. Quran 8.20: “O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger…”
    There are many more verses (see 3:32; 4:14,59,69; 5:92; 8:1,46; 9:71; 24:47,51–52,54,56; 33:33; 47:33; 49:14; 58:13; 64:12), in which Allah commands Muslims to obey Allah and His Messenger Muhammad. So, obeying what Prophet Muhammad said, recommended and commanded has the same importance in forming the foundation of Islam as obeying Allah’s commands in verses of the Quran. So, if Muslims think that what Allah’s words in the Quran say forms inviolable foundation of Islam, then they must obey Prophet Muhammad’s personal recommendations and commands too. And Prophet Muhammad’s recommendations and commands are found in the Hadiths (and Prophet’s biographies) only. So, by rejecting the Hadiths, the Quran-only Muslims discard one-half of Islam.
    In sum, the Quran repeatedly says: “Obey His (Allah’s) Messenger” – i.e. Prophet Muhammad. But the allegedly Quranist Muslims say: “Do not obey Allah’s Messenger”. In other words, Quran-only Muslims’ central idea goes against a central idea of the Quran. In other words, the so-called Quran-only Muslims are actually Quran-opponent in their most important claim about Islam that Prophet Muhammad’s personal sayings, commands and deeds have no relevance to Islam, but the Quran (aka Allah) says that Prophet Muhammad’s personal sayings, commands and deeds are integral to Islam.
    What is Shirk (Polytheism) and its manifestations (in Islam)?
    What is Shirk?
    Shirk basically is polytheism, i.e. the worship of others along with Allah. It also implies attributing divine attributes to any other besides Allah. It particularly implies associating partners in worship with Allah or to believe that the source of power, harm or blessings is from others besides Allah.
    Types of Shirk
    There are three types of Shirk, namely:
    (1) Ash-Shirk-al-Akbar, i.e. major Shirk
    (2) Ash-Shirk-al-Asghar, i.e. minor Shirk
    (3) Ash-Shirk-al-Khafi, i.e. inconspicuous Shirk.
    Ash-Shirk-al-Akbar (The major Shirk):
    The major and serious polytheistic form, it has four aspects:
    (a) Shirk-ad-Du’â, i.e. invocation.This aspect implies invoking, supplicating or praying to other deities besides Allah.
    Almighty Allah says:
    “And when they embark on a ships they invoke Allah, making their Faith pure for Him only, but when He brings them safely to land, behold, they give a share of their worship to others,” (Quran – V.29:65)
    (b) Shirk-al-Niyyah wal-Iradah wal-Qasd. This aspect implies intentions, purpose and determination in acts of worship or religious deeds not for the sake of Allah but directed towards other deities.
    (c) Shirk-at-Tâ’a. This aspect implies rendering obedience to any authority against the Order of Allah.
    Almighty Allah says:
    “They (Jews and Christians) took their Rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded (in the Torah and the Gospel) to worship none but One Ilâh (God i.e., Allah), Lâ ilâha illâ Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and Glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).” (Quran – V.9:31).
    Once, while Allah’s Messenger (SAW) was reciting the above Verse, ‘Adi bin Hatim said, “O Allah’s Prophet! They do not worship them (rabbis and monks).” Allah’s Messenger said, “They certainly do. They (i.e. Rabbis and monks) made legal things illegal, and illegal things legal, and they (i.e. Jews and Christians) followed them; and by doing so they really worshipped them.”(Narrated by Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi, and Ibn Jarir). (Tafsir At-Tabari, Vol.10, Page No. 114).
    (d) Shirk-al-Mahabbah. This implies showing the love which is due to Allah Alone, to others than Him.
    Almighty Allah says:
    “And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides Allah as rivals (to Allah). They love them as they love Allah. But those who believe, love Allah more (than anything else). If only those who do wrong could see, when they will see the torment, that all power belongs to Allah and that Allah is Severe in punishment.” (Quran – V. 2:165)
    (2) Ash-Shirk-al-Asghar Ar-Riyâ’ (The minor Shirk, i.e. acts performed to show off)
    Any act of worship or any religious deed done in order to gain praise, fame or for worldly purposes, falls under this minor form.
    Almighty Allah says:
    “Say (O Muhammad SAW ) : ‘I am only a man like you, it has been inspired to me that your Ilâh (God) is One Ilâh (God i.e Allah). So whoever hopes for the meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.’ ” (Quran – V. 18:110)
    (3) Ash-Shirk-al-Khafi (The inconspicuous Shirk).
    This type implies being inwardly dissatisfied with the inevitable condition that has been ordained for one by Allah; conscientiously lamenting that had you done or not done such and such or had you approached such and such you would have had a better status, etc.
    The Noble Prophet Muhammad SAW said:
    “Ash-Shirk-al-Khafi in the Muslim nation is more inconspicuous than the creeping of black ant on black rock in the pitch-darkness of the night.” And this inconspicuous Shirk is expiated by saying thrice the following sentences within a day and a night: “O Allah! I take Your refuge from that I should ascribe anything as partner in Your worship, being conscious of that, and I beg Your pardon for that sin which I am not aware of.”
    Major and Minor Shirk – A Clarification
    The texts of the Quran and Sunnah indicate that shirk and the ascribing of rivals to Allah sometimes puts a person beyond the pale of Islam and sometimes does not. Hence the scholars divided shirk into two types which they call shirk akbar (major shirk) and shirk asghar (minor shirk). There follows a brief description of each type:
    1 – Major shirk
    This means ascribing to someone other than Allah something that belongs only to Allah, such as Lordship (ruboobiyyah), divinity (uloohiyyah) and the divine names and attributes (al-asma’ wa’l-sifaat).
    Major Shirk may sometimes take the form of beliefs
    Such as the belief that there is someone else who creates, gives life and death, reigns or controls the affairs of the universe along with Allah.
    Or the belief that there is someone else who must be obeyed absolutely besides Allah, so they follow him in regarding as permissible or forbidden whatever he wants, even if that goes against the religion of the Messengers.
    Or they may associate others with Allah in love and veneration, by loving a created being as they love Allah. This is the kind of shirk that Allah does not forgive.
    Or the belief that there are those who know the Unseen as well as Allah. It is also shirk to believe that there is someone who bestows mercy in a manner that is befitting only for Allah, so he shows mercy as Allah does and forgives sins and overlooks the bad deeds of his worshippers.
    Major Shirk may sometimes take the form of words
    Such as those who make dua or pray to someone other than Allah, or seek his help or seek refuge with him with regard to matters over which no one has control except Allah, whether the person called upon is a Prophet, a wali (“saint”), an angel or a jinn, or some other created being. This is a kind of major shirk which puts one beyond the pale of Islam.
    Or such as those who make fun of religion or who liken Allah to His creation, or say that there is another creator, provider or controller besides Allah. All of these are major shirk and a grave sin that is not forgiven.
    Major Shirk may sometimes take the form of actions
    Such as one who sacrifices, prays or prostrates to something other than Allah, or who promulgates laws to replace the rulings of Allah.
    2 – Minor shirk
    This includes everything that may lead to major shirk, or which is described in the texts as being shirk, but does not reach the extent of being major shirk.
    This is usually of two types:
    1 – Being emotionally attached to some means which have no basis and for which Allah has not given permission, such as hanging up “hands”, turquoise beads, amulets, etc on the grounds that they offer protection or that they ward off the evil eye. But Allah has not made them the means of such protection, either according to shareeah or according to the laws of the universe.
    2 – Venerating some people or things in a way that does not go so far as ascribing lordship to them, such as swearing by something other than Allah, or saying, “Were it not for Allah and So and so,” etc.
    The scholars have stipulated guidelines to distinguish major shirk from minor shirk when shirk is mentioned in the texts of sharee’ah. These guidelines include the following:
    (i) – When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) states clearly that this action is minor shirk, such as in al-Musnad (27742) where it is narrated that Mahmoud ibn Labeed said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The thing that I fear most for you is minor shirk.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, what is minor shirk?” He said: “Showing off, for Allah will say on the Day when people are recompensed for their actions: ‘Go to those for whom you were showing off with your deeds in the world, and see what reward you find with them.’” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 951.
    (ii) – When the word shirk is used in the texts of the Quran and Sunnah in the indefinite form [without the definite article al-]. This usually refers to minor shirk, and there are many examples of this, such as when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Incantations, amulets and love spells are shirk.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3883; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 331.
    (iii) – If the Sahaabah understood from the texts of sharee’ah that what was meant by shirk here was minor shirk, not major. Undoubtedly the understanding of the Sahaabah carries weight, because they are the most knowledgeable of the people (after the prophet) concerning the religion of Allah, and the most knowledgeable as to the intent of the Lawgiver. For example, Abu Dawood (3910) narrated from Ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Tiyarah (superstitious belief in omens) is shirk, tiyarah is shirk,” three times, and there is no one among us but (will have some of that) but Allah will rid him of it by means of tawakkul (putting his trust in Allah). The words “there is no one among us…” are the words of Ibn Mas’ood, as was explained by the prominent scholars of hadeeth. This indicates that Ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) understood that this was minor shirk, because he could not have said, “There is no one among us…” referring to major shirk. Moreover, major shirk cannot be eliminated by means of tawakkul, rather it is essential to repent there from.
    (iv) – If the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) interpreted the words shirk or kufr in a manner which indicates that what is meant is a minor form thereof and not the major form. For example al-Bukhaari (1038) and Muslim (74) narrated from Zayd ibn Khaalid al-Juhani that he said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) led the morning prayer for us at al-Hudaybiyah following rainfall during the night. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) finished, he turned to face the people and said to them: “Do you know what your Lord has said?” They said: “Allah and his Messenger know best.” He said: “This morning one of My slaves became a believer in Me and one a disbeliever. As for him who said: ‘We have been given rain by the grace of Allaah and His mercy,’ that one is a believer in Me, a disbeliever in the stars; and as for him who said: ‘We have been given rain by such-and-such a star, that one is a disbeliever in Me, a believer in the stars.’”
    Minor shirk may sometimes take the form of outward actions, such as wearing talismans, strings, amulets and the like, and other words and deeds. And sometimes it may be hidden, like a little bit of showing off.
    Minor Shirk may also take the form of beliefs
    Such as the belief that something may be a cause of bringing benefit or warding off harm, when Allah has not made it so; or believing that there is barakah (blessing) in a thing, when Allah has not made it so.
    Minor Shirk sometimes takes the form of words
    Such as when they said, “We have been given rain by such and such a star,” without believing that that the stars could independently cause rain to fall; or swearing by something other than Allah, without believing in venerating the thing sworn by or regarding it as equal with Allah; or saying, “Whatever Allah wills and you will,” and so on.
    Minor Shirk sometimes takes the form of actions
    Such as hanging up amulets or wearing a talisman or string to dispel or ward off calamity, because everyone who attribute powers to a thing when Allah has not made it so either according to sharee’ah or according to the laws of the universe, has associated something with Allah. This also applies to one who touches a thing seeking its barakah (blessing), when Allah has not created any barakah in it, such as kissing the doors of the mosques, touching their thresholds, seeking healing from their dust, and other such actions.
    Soruce and References:
    1. Dr. M. Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali, Ph.D., Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan – Islamic University, Al-Madinah Al-Munawwara. Source: Noble Quran – English Translation of the meanings and commentary
    2. Islamqa.info
    – End

    SEVEN VERSIONS OF QURAN
    The pagan Arabs were mostly illiterate and very rarely had the facilities or the wherewithal to put down in writing the verses of the Quran. Most of the Quran had to be memorized by those who were attending Muhammad at any one time.
    Since Muhammad had to inform some of his immediate followers of his alleged ‘revelations’ at different times, in different places to different companions – over the incredibly long period of twenty three years – it was impossible for him to keep track of the verses, their contents and to which Sura they belonged.
    He was after all, giving different versions of a verse to different companions at different times and different localities. This caused of course, dissent, consternation and bewilderment among his followers.
    When confronted by the numerous and very embarrassing discrepancies, Muhammad escaped this dilemma by informing his gullible and ignorant followers that the Quran was ‘revealed’ in SEVEN different ways, modes, versions or dialects.
    Allah, who gave the Torah to Moses in only one form and in a singular language, had to give the ‘glorious and inimitable’ Quran in SEVEN different ways.
    The reader should be reminded that many of the MEMORIZERS of the Quran perished in the earliest battles of ‘Islam’, BEFORE the Quran was finally collated and collected.
    Hence, even according to the Hadiths, innumerable verses were lost in that way as well as in other ways as detailed in ‘The Collection of the Quran’ section.
    Al-Tirmidhi HadithHadith 2215
    Narrated byUbayy ibn Ka’b
    Ubayy told of Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) meeting Gabriel and saying, “I have been sent, Gabriel, to a people who are unlettered, among whom are old women and old men, boys and girls, and men who have never read a book.” He replied, “The Qur’an, Muhammad, has been sent down in seven modes.”
    Tirmidhi transmitted it.
    Al-Muwatta Hadith Hadith 15.5 About the Qur’an
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Urwa ibn az-Zubayr that Abd ar-Rahman ibn Abd al-Qari said that he had heard Umar ibn al-Khattab say, “I heard Hisham ibn Hakim ibn Hizam reciting Surat al-Furqan (Sura 25) differently from me, and it was the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, who had recited it to me. I was about to rush up to him but I granted him a respite until he had finished his prayer. Then I grabbed him by his cloak and took him to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said, ‘Messenger of Allah, I heard this man reciting Surat al-Furqan differently from the way you recited it to me.’ The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, ‘Let him go.’ Then he said, ‘Recite, Hisham,’ and Hisham recited as I had heard him recite. The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, ‘It was sent down like that.’ Then he said to me, ‘Recite’ and I recited the sura, and he said, ‘It was sent down like that. This Qur’an was sent down in seven (different) ways, so recite from it whatever is easy for you .’ ”
    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 9.640
    Narrated byUmar bin Al Khattab
    I heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat-al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle, I listened to his recitation and noticed that he was reciting in a way that Allah’s Apostle had not taught me. I was about to jump over him while He was still in prayer, but I waited patiently and when he finished his prayer, I put my sheet round his neck (and pulled him) and said, “Who has taught you this Sura which I have heard you reciting?” Hisham said, “Allah’s Apostle taught it to me.” I said, “You are telling a lie, for he taught it to me in a way different from the way you have recited it!” Then I started leading (dragged) him to Allah’s Apostle and said (to the Prophet), “I have heard this man reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way that you have not taught me.” The Prophet said: )O ‘Umar) release him! Recite, O Hisham.” Hisham recited in the way I heard him reciting. Allah’s Apostle said, “It was revealed like this.” Then Allah’s Apostle said, “Recite, O ‘Umar!” I recited in the way he had taught me, whereupon he said, “It was revealed like this,” and added, “The Qur’an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever is easy for you .” (See Hadith No. 514, Vol. 6)
    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 6.514
    Narrated byUmar bin Al Khattab
    I heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat Al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle and I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah’s Apostle had not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper, and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, “Who taught you this Sura which I heard you reciting?” He replied, “Allah’s Apostle taught it to me.” I said, “You have told a lie, for Allah’s Apostle has taught it to me in a different way from yours.” So I dragged him to Allah’s Apostle and said (to Allah’s Apostle),
    “I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven’t taught me!” On that Allah’s Apostle said, “Release him, (O ‘Umar!) Recite, O Hisham!” Then he recited in the same way as I heard him reciting. Then Allah’s Apostle said, “It was revealed in this way,” and added, “Recite, O ‘Umar!” I recited it as he had taught me. Allah’s Apostle then said, “It was revealed in this way. This Qur’an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever (way) is easier for you (or read as much of it as may be easy for you).”
    Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 3.601
    Narrated byUmar bin Al Khattab
    I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah’s Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah’s Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah’s Apostle said, “It was revealed in this way.” He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, “It was revealed in this way. The Qur’an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you.”
    Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 1787/9
    Narrated byUbayy ibn Ka’b
    The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) was near the cistern of Banu Ghifar when Gabriel came to him and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur’an in one dialect to your people. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur’an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah this He said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur’an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they recite, they will be right.
    ***
    It was exactly because of these various versions of the Quran that Uthman bin Affan allowed only ONE Quran to exist by BURNING the SIX other versions.
    He would NOT have taken such an extreme measure if the differences were only DIALECTICAL but most certainly if they were TEXTUAL.
    Since Muhammad accepted and allowed the seven variations of the Quran, as agreed upon with Allah through Gabriel, no MORTAL had the right to burn any of them as each one was supposedly divine.
    This UNILATERAL act of desecration was one of the important causes for the rebellion and dissension that ended with his murder.
    This SACRILEGIOUS act, nullifies the UNFOUNDED and totally SPURIOUS claims of the followers of Muhammad that the Quran was never changed or tampered with, in DEFIANCE of the reports in most of the books written by the earlier Mohammedan exegeses that show otherwise

    ***

    • Lucky Raj, you have escaped a very interesting topic : “Tunisian women travelling to Syria to wage ‘sex jihad’: minister”

      It should make very good breakfast for you, right??

      “The growing number of women travelling to Syria to wage so-called “sex jihad” by comforting militant.
      Jihad al-nikah, permitting extramarital sexual relations with multiple partners, is considered by some hardline Sunni Muslim Salafists as a legitimate form of holy war”.

      And this ball where did he get the words : “sexual relations with multiple partners”, from???

      (s;NDTV http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/tunisian-women)

      regards

      Plum

    • MM, See where the actual division starts between the Shias and sunnis : The word Mutah…the word understood by the Shias as alluding to “temporary marriage” : It was so controversial that the verse divided them into two sects…to this day. But had they only known that the next verse replaces(abrogates) that!!!!! I would like to brief you on that!!

      Shias allow temporary marriage, to have sex with younger girls in the name of “Mutah” and then leave them pregnant, at times. That defies all logic!!! I think that, that is NOT what the pious Quran teaches, as we shall soon see :

      Repeat : They relied totally to fulfill their sexual gratification based on 4:24 without realising that that particular verse had been replaced by its following verse :

      It IS verse 4:24 Shakir: “And all married women except those whom your right hands possess (this is) Allah’s ordinance to you, and lawful for you are (all women) besides those, provided that you seek (them) with your property, taking (them) in marriage not committing fornication. Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed”. The word in arabic is “..mtatum”, referred to as “Mutah”.

      To comprehend, let us go to 4:23 in excerpts : Prohibited to you [for marriage]… your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;

      The step daughter is the girl who came with the woman from previous marriage. So, when you marry that divorced woman, then her daughter( from previous marriage) becomes your step daughter. Are we clear on that?? But if you married that woman but you declined to sleep with her then you can marry that step daughter too. That is my understanding and maybe was a newer command in Arab custom, as they may have been sleeping with the wives as well as their daughters before this commandment!!. So the Quran changed that practice.

      Now, we come back to 4:24

      All prohibited are except :

      1. Those whom your right hands possess : war captives girls> before it was allowed but later abrogated by the following verse 4:25 “…[he may marry] from those whom your right hands possess of believing slave girls”.

      2. The rest of the women are all allowed in marriage save for two sisters at the same time.

      (all the above comments were for the above verses which were replaced by the NEW verse to be followed : Quran 4:25

      Yusuf Ali: If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess

      And that is all!!! Verse 4:25 replaces the above verses and says nothing more than :

      1. Marry believing women

      2. If can’t afford, marry from : captives, slaves, maids.

      3>>>>But marry.

      Quran 16:101 Yusuf Ali: When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages)

      So, both the Sunnis and Shia divided for nothing and the needless loss of innocent, innocent, innocent lives!!!!!

      Regards

      Plum

        • Dear MM, the ambiguity in verse 4:24 was cleared by replacing it with 4:25!

          I said, “And that is all!!! Verse 4:25 replaces the above verses and says nothing more than :

          1. Marry believing women

          2. If can’t afford, marry from : captives, slaves, maids.

          3>>>>But marry.

          That is very clear isn’t it??

          Regards

          Plum

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