Pakistan: Muslim father donates 3 sons to Hafiz Saeed for JIHAD


Hafiz Saeed's Jamaat-ud-Dawa is the parent body of banned terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba that carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks in which 166 people were killed.

Hafiz Saeed’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa is the parent body of banned terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba that carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks in which 166 people were killed.

[PTI]  A Pakistani man has handed over his three young sons to Jamaat-ud-Dawah chief Hafiz Saeed for jihad.

Abu Haider, a Jamaat-ud-Dawa activist, handed over his three sons to Saeed at a workers’ convention yesterday in Nankana Sahib, about 80 kilometres from Lahore.

“I hand over my three young sons to you for jihad (holy war). They will be now on your hands in your struggle,” Haider said.

Saeed appreciated Haider’s act and called him a “brave father”.

“Jihad is never waged against Muslims. It is against infidels. The infighting among Muslims is not jihad from any one group,” Saeed said.

Jamaat-ud-Dawa is the parent body of banned terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba that carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks in which 166 people were killed.

There is no formal ban on the JuD and its chief Saeed, who lives freely in Lahore despite a 10-million-dollar bounty offered for him by the US.

 

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  1. JUST LOOK AT HIS GOATLIKE FACE – REPULSIVE!

    JINN POSSESSED!

    MUHAMMAD THE BILLY GOAT & HIS NEANDERTHAL CULT

    Zakaria Ar-Razi, one of the greatest minds of Islamic world, attacked religion in general and Islam in particular with a force unthinkable in this day. He wrote:

    “The prophets—these Billy goats with long beards, cannot claim any intellectual or spiritual superiority. These Billy goats pretend to come with a message from God, all the while exhausting themselves in spouting their lies, and imposing on the masses blind obedience to the “words of the master.” The miracles of the prophets are impostures, based on trickery, or the stories regarding them are lies. The falseness of what all the prophets say is evident in the fact that they contradict one another: one affirms what the other denies, and yet each claims to be the sole depository of the truth; thus the New Testament contradicts the Torah, the Koran the New Testament. As for the Koran, it is but an assorted mixture of “absurd and inconsistent fables,” which has ridiculously been judged inimitable, when, in fact, its language, style, and its much vaunted “eloquence” are far from being faultless. Custom, tradition, and intellectual laziness lead men to follow their religious leaders blindly. Religions have been the sole cause of the bloody wars that have ravaged mankind. Religions have also been resolutely hostile to philosophical speculation and to scientific research. The so-called holy scriptures are worthless and have done more harm than good, whereas the “writings of the ancients like Plato, Aristotle, Euclid, and Hippocrates have rendered much greater service to humanity.”

    THIS KIND OF CRITICISM OF ISLAM TODAY, WOULD CARRY THE DEATH SENTENCE!

    Can any intellectual speak so freely against Islam calling the prophets “Billy Goats” as Ar-Razi called them disdainfully in these days and live? Does the fatwa against Salman Rushdie ring a bell? It is clear that in those days of the golden age of Islam, Islamic countries enjoyed a freedom and a level of secularization that has since disappeared. And along with that, the glory of Islamic world also has ebbed. Islam can be used as an index of barbarity and backwardness.

    THE MORE A COUNTRY APPLIES ISLAM, THE MORE UNCIVILIZED & UNCULTURED IT BECOMES

    I have no doubt that if Islam was eliminated completely, we’ll regain the past glory of those secular days and even surpass it. There is no reason to believe that the black-eyed race of Middle East is inferior to the blue-eyed Europeans. The number of Middle Eastern scientists, academics and scholars in the West is an indication that given the opportunity they are no less intelligent than any other race. The reason that they are backward, uncivilized and barbaric in their native countries is because Islam has taken away their dignity, humanity and intelligence. Islam has brainwashed them, and like a drug has damaged the minds of their people.

    LOOTING FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF ALLAH

    Qur’an 8:1 “They ask you about the benefits of capturing the spoils of war. Tell them: ‘The benefits belong to Allah and to His Messenger.'”

    Ishaq:510 “We ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”

    Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'”

    Tabari VII:64
    Ishaq:307 “The Messenger of Allah gave orders concerning the contents of the camp which the people had collected, and it was all brought together. Among the Muslims, however, there was a difference of opinion concerning it. Those who had collected it said, ‘It is ours. Muhammad promised every man that he could keep the booty he took.’ Those who were fighting said, ‘If it had not been for us, you would not have taken it. We distracted the enemy from you so that you could take what you took.’ Those who were guarding the Prophet for fear the enemy would attack him said, ‘By Allah, you have no better right to it than we have. We wanted to kill the enemy when Allah gave us the opportunity and made them turn their backs, and we wanted to take property when there was no one to protect it; but we were afraid that the Meccans might attack the Prophet. We protected him so you have no better right to it than we have.’ When we quarreled about the booty we became very bad tempered. So Allah removed it from us and handed it over to His Messenger.”

    Bukhari:V5B59N360 “The total number of Muslim fighters from Mecca who fought at Badr and were given a share of the booty, were 81. When their shares were distributed, their number was 101. But Allah knows it better.”

    Ishaq:307 “The ‘Spoils of War’ Surah came down from Allah to His Prophet concerning the distribution of the booty when the Muslims showed their evil nature. Allah took it out of their hands and gave it to the Apostle.”

    Tabari VII:65 “Allah’s Messenger came back to Medina, bringing with him the booty which had been taken from the polytheists…. There were forty-four captives in the Messenger of Allah’s possession. There was a similar number of dead.”

    Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The captives of Khaybar were divided among the Muslims. Then the Messenger began taking the homes and property that were closest to him.”

    Tabari VIII:116
    Ishaq:511 “So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some of its people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself.”

    Ishaq:511 “When Dihyah protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims.”

    Tabari VIII:130 “The Prophet conquered Khaybar by force after fighting. Khaybar was something that Allah gave as booty to His Messenger. He took one-fifth of it and divided the remainder among the Muslims.”

    Bukhari V4B52N46 “I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘Allah guarantees that He will admit the Muslim fighter into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and booty.'”
    Tabari VIII:117 “The Banu Sahm of Aslam [newly recruited Muslim militants] came to the Messenger and complained, ‘Muhammad, we have been hurt by drought and possess nothing.’ Although they had fought for the Prophet they found he had nothing [he was willing] to give them. The Apostle said, ‘O Allah, You know their condition – I have no strength and nothing [I want] to give them [from the booty I have stolen]. So conquer for them the wealthiest of the Khaybar homes, the ones with the most food and fat meat.'”
    Ishaq:515 “Allah’s Apostle besieged the final [Jewish] community of Khaybar until they could hold out no longer. Finally, when they were certain that they would perish, they asked Muhammad to banish them and spare their lives, which he did. The Prophet took possession of all their property.”

    Tabari VIII:128 “Khaybar was divided among the people who had been at Hudaybiyah.”

    Ishaq:521 “Khaybar was apportioned among the men of Hudaybiyah without regard to whether they were present at Khaybar or not. The spoil was divided into 1,800 shares.”

    Ishaq:521 “When the spoil of Khaybar was apportioned, the settlements of Shaqq and Nata were given to the Muslims while Katiba was divided into five sections: Allah’s fifth [which Muhammad was custodian]; the Prophet’s fifth; the share to the kindred [Muhammad’s kin]; maintenance of the Prophet’s wives [now there’s an honest report]; and payment to the men who acted as intermediaries in the peace negotiation with Fadak [which enabled the prophet to steal the entire spoil].”

    Ishaq:522 “Then the Apostle distributed the booty between his relatives, his wives, and to other men and women. He gave his daughter Fatima 200 shares, Ali 100, Usama 250, Aisha 200, Bakr 100…. In the name of Allah – this is a memorandum of what Muhammad the Apostle gave his wives from the dates and wheat: 180 loads.”

    Bukhari:V5B59N537 “Allah’s Apostle divided the war booty with the ratio of two shares for the horse and one-share for the foot soldier.”

    Bukhari:V5B59N541 “When we conquered, we gained neither gold nor silver as booty, but we gained cows, camels, goods and gardens.”

    Tabari VIII:12 “When cities were conquered Muslims used to say, ‘Conquer for yourselves whatever seems good to you because all treasures were given to Muhammad.'”

    Qur’an 48:19 “He rewarded them with abundant spoils that they will capture. Allah has promised you much booty that you shall take, and He has made this easy for you.”

    Qur’an 9:103 “Take alms out of their property in order to cleanse and purify them, and invoke Allah for them; surely this is a relief for them.”

    Tabari IX:3 “Since the Hawazin and Thaqif had marched with their women, children, and flocks, Allah granted them as booty to His Messenger, who divided the spoils among those Quraysh who had recently embraced Islam.”

    Tabari IX:13 “Abu Talhah alone took the spoils of twenty men whom he had killed.”

    Ishaq:571 “I went up to a man and struck off his hand. He fell and I killed him while he was down. But I was too occupied with fighting to pay any more attention to him. So one of the Meccan Muslims passed by and stripped him. Then when the fighting was over and we had finished with the enemy, the Apostle said that anyone who had killed a foe could have his spoil. I told the Apostle that I had killed a man who was worth stripping but had been too busy killing others at the time to notice who had spoiled him. Abu Bakr said, “To Allah’s lions who fight for His religion go the spoils that come from their prey. Return the booty to the man who killed him.’ The Apostle confirmed Abu Bakr’s words. So I was given the property of the man whom I had killed. I sold it and bought a small palm grove with the money. It was the first property I ever owned.”
    Ishaq:592 “The Apostle held a large number of captives. There were 6,000 women and children prisoners. He had captured so many sheep and camels they could not be counted.”

    Tabari IX:31
    Ishaq:594 “‘Muhammad, divide the spoil and booty of camels and cattle among us.’ They forced the Prophet up against a tree, and his robe was torn from him. Muhammad cried, ‘Give me back my robe. If there had been more sheep I would have given you some. You have not found me to be niggardly, cowardly or false.”

    Tabari IX:31
    Ishaq:594 “‘You have not found me miserly, cowardly, or a liar.’ Then he walked over to his camel and took a hair from its hump. Holding it aloft in his fingers he said, ‘Men, I do not have anything of your booty, not even as much as this hair. Just filth. And that filth is what is being given to you. So, bring back my cloak.'”

    Ishaq:594 “The Apostle gave gifts to those whose hearts were to be won over, notably the chiefs of the army, to win them and through them the people.”

    Bukhari:V4B53N373 “Allah’s Apostle got property and war prisoners and gave them to some people to the exclusion of others. The latter seemed to be displeased by that. The Prophet said, ‘I give to some people, lest they should deviate from Islam or lose patience.'”

    Bukhari:V4B53N374 “The Prophet said, ‘I give to the Quraysh so that they will desire Islam, for they are nearer to their life of Ignorance and it is not strong in their hearts.'”

    Tabari IX:36
    Ishaq:596 “‘Prophet, this group of Ansar have a grudge against you for what you did with the booty and how you divided it among you own people.’ ‘Ansar, what is this talk I hear from you? What is the grudge you harbor against me? Do you think ill of me? Did I not come to you when you were erring and needy, and then made rich by Allah?”

    Tabari IX:37
    Ishaq:596 “Do you hold a grudge against me and are you mentally disturbed because of the worldly things by which I conciliate a people and win them over so that they will embrace Islam and become Muslims?”

    Tabari IX:38 “In this year, the Messenger sent Amr to collect the zakat tax from Jayfar and Amr, the clans of Julanda and Azd…. He collected the jizyah from the Zoroastrians.”

    Tabari IX:74 “Indeed, Allah has guided you with His guidance. If you wish to do well [capture booty], obey Allah and His Messenger. You must perform the prayers, pay the zakat tax, and give a fifth share of Allah’s booty to His Messenger. The required zakat is: from the land one tenth of that watered by springs and rain, and one twentieth of that watered by the leathern bucket. From camels, a milch camel for every forty camels, and a young male camel for every thirty camels. From sheep, one for every five camels; and from cows, one from every fourth… If anyone pays more, it is to his credit. He who professes this, bears witness to his Islam and helps the faithful [fight] against the polytheists, he has the protection of Allah and His Messenger.”

    Tabari IX:75 “He who holds fast to his religion, Judaism or Christianity, is not to be tempted from it. It is incumbent on them to pay the jizyah protection tax. For every adult, male or female, free or slave, one full denarius, or its value in al-ma’afir [fine cloth]. He who pays that to the Messenger has the protection of Allah and His Messenger, and he who holds back from it is the enemy of Allah and His Messenger.”
    Tabari IX:76 “The Messenger has sent Zur’ah and his Companions to you. ‘I commend them to your care. Collect the zakat and jizyah from your districts and hand the money over to my messengers.’ The Prophet is the master of your rich and your poor.”

    Ishaq:564 “The Muslims stole our goods and divided them. Their spears pierced us not once but twice. Their squadrons came at us like a swarm of locusts. Were it not for the religion of Muhammad’s people, their cavalry would never have attacked us.”

    Bukhari:V9B84N59 “When the Prophet died, Arabs reverted to disbelief. Umar said, ‘Should we fight these people?’ Bakr said, ‘By Allah! I will fight whoever differentiates between prayers and Zakat, as Zakat is to be taken from property according to Allah’s Orders. If they refuse to pay me even so little as a kid they used to pay, I will fight with them for withholding it.'”

    Qur’an 59:6 “What Allah gave as booty to His Messenger He has taken away from them [the Jews]. For this you made no raid. Allah gives His Messenger Lordship over whomsoever He wills. Whatever booty Allah has given to His Messenger and taken away from the [Jewish] people of the townships, belongs to Allah and to His Messenger…. So take what the Messenger assigns to you, and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you.”

    Tabari VII:26 “In this year Muhammad ordered people to pay the zakat tax. It is said that the Prophet commanded them to do this.”

    Ishaq:309 “‘Bind Abu Aziz tight for his mother is rich and she may ransom him for a great deal of money.'”
    Tabari VII:71 “Among the captives was Abu Wada. Muhammad said, ‘He has a son who is a shrewd merchant with much money.” [The son] “slipped away at night, went to Medina, ransomed his father for 4,000 dirhams.”

    Ishaq:312 “The Prophet said, ‘Abbas, you must ransom yourself, your two nephews, Aqil and Nawfal, and your confederate, Utbah, for you are a wealthy man.’ ‘Muhammad,’ Abbas said, ‘I was a Muslim, but the people compelled me to fight against my will.’ Allah knows best concerning your Islam,’ Muhammad said. ‘As for your outward appearance, you have been against us, so pay to ransom yourself.’ The Messenger had previously taken twenty ounces of gold from him following the battle. So Abbas said, ‘Credit me with this amount towards my ransom.’ ‘No,’ Muhammad replied. ‘That money Allah has already taken from you and given to us.'”

    Ishaq:313 “The Muslims told Abu Sufyan to pay them a ransom to free his son, Amr. He replied, ‘Am I to suffer the double loss of my blood and my money? After you have killed my son Hanzala, you want me to pay you a ransom to save Amr?'”

    Bukhari:V5B59N357 “The Badr warriors were given five thousand dirhams each, yearly. Umar [the future Caliph] said, ‘I will always give them more than what I will give to others.'”

    Tabari VII:80 “When the events of Badr were over, Allah revealed the 8th surah, ‘The Spoils of War,’ in its entirety. The two armies met [there were no armies – just merchants and militants] and Allah defeated the Meccans [with Muslim swords]. Seventy of them were killed, and seventy were taken captive. Abu Bakr said, ‘O Prophet of Allah, these are your people, your family; they are your cousins, fellow clansmen, and nephews. I think that you should accept ransoms for them so that what we take from them will strengthen us.'”

    Tabari VII:81 “‘What do you think Khattab?’ Muhammad asked. ‘I say you should hand them over to me so that I can cut off their heads. Thus Allah will know that there is no leniency in our hearts toward the unbelievers.’ The Messenger liked what Bakr said and did not like what I said, and accepted ransoms for the captives.”

    Ishaq:316 “On the Badr expedition, the Messenger took the sword of Dhu al-Faqar as booty. It had belonged to Munabbih. On that day he also took Abu Jahl’s camel as booty. It was a Mahri dromedary on which he used to go on raids. It is said that he wrote ‘Ma’aqil’ [Blood-Money] on his sword.”

    Ishaq:321 “The Spoils of War surah was handed down because we quarreled about the booty. So Allah took it away from us and gave it to His Apostle. When He did, we learned to fear Allah and obey his Messenger…. For in truth, our army had gone out with the Prophet seeking the caravan because we wanted its booty.”

    Ishaq:324 “Allah taught them how to divide the spoil. He made it lawful and said, ‘A fifth of the booty belongs to the Apostle.’

    Qur’an 8:68 “Had it not been for a previous agreement from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that you took as booty.”

    Qur’an 8:69 “So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good.”

    Ishaq:327 “Allah made booty lawful and good. He used it to incite the Muslims to unity of purpose. So enjoy what you have captured.”

    Bukhari:V4B52N276 “By Allah, we saw the Meccan women running, revealing their leg-bangles. So, we cried out, ‘The booty! O Muslims, the booty! Our Companions have become victorious. What are we waiting for? By Allah! We will go to the pagans and collect our share of the war booty.'”

    Tabari VIII:38 “The Messenger divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.”

    Ishaq:465 “When their wrists were bound with cords, the Apostle was a sea of generosity to us. Allah’s Messenger took his fifth of the booty. He made known on that day the extra shares for horses and their riders – giving the horse two shares and the rider one. A Muslim without a horse got one share of the spoil. It was the first booty in which lots were cast.”

    Tabari VIII:39 “Then the Messenger of Allah sent Sa’d bin Zayd with some of the Qurayza captives to Najd, and in exchange for them he purchased horses and arms.”

    Ishaq:503 “Allah saw what was in their hearts [what they coveted] so he rewarded them with victory and with as much spoil as they could take. Allah promised that they would soon capture a great deal of booty.”

    Ishaq:508
    Tabari VIII:91 “Abu Jandal, Suhayl’s son, escaped and joined Abu Basir. Nearly seventy Muslim men gathered around them and they harassed the Quraysh. Whenever they heard of a Meccan caravan setting out for Syria, they intercepted it, and killed everyone they could get a hold of. They tore every caravan to pieces and took the goods.”

    Tabari VIII:93 “According to Waqidi, in this month, the Messenger sent out Ukkashah with forty men to raid Ghamr. He traveled quickly, but the enemy became aware and fled. He sent out scouts and they captured a spy who guided them to some of their cattle. They took two hundred head back to Medina.”

    Tabari IX:28 “The Muslims were concerned. They did not want to give up their share. So Muhammad said, ‘He who holds a share of these captives shall get six camels for every slave from the next booty we take.’ So the Muslims returned the women and children captives.”

    Qur’an 4:94 “Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah’s Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: ‘You are not a believer!’ Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him).

    SAVAGE ARABS & THEIR CULT

    Bukhari:V5B59N459 “I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, “We went out with Allah’s Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.”

    Do you think a female prisoner would desire to have sex with the very people responsible for the murder/beheading of her husband, father brother and/or son?

    ISLAM TEACHES THAT RAPE IS ORDAINED OF ALLAH.

    ALLAH & MOHAMMED SANCTIONED THE RAPE OF FEMALE CAPTIVES:

    RAPE JIHAD:

    Sahih Muslim Book 08. N 3371Marriage
    Chapter: Al-Azl (incomplete sexual intercourse): Coitus Interruptus.
    Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him) mentioning al-’azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women;
    and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them.
    So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?
    So we asked Allah’s Messenger (May peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

    REMEMBER:

    ISLAM TEACHES THAT RAPE IS ORDAINED OF GOD
    ALLAH & MOHAMMED SANCTIONED RAPE

    Al-’Azl
    Al-’Azl, (العزل) also known as coitus interruptus, is the practice of having sexual intercourse with a woman but withdrawing the penis before ejaculation. Apparently al-’Azl with female captives and slaves was a pretty important topic for Muhammad and his companions as evidenced by the abundance of Hadith material on the subject.
    Narrated Jabir: We used to practice coitus interruptus during the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle .

    Sahih Bukhari 7:62:135

    Narrated Jabir: We used to practice coitus interrupt us while the Quran was being revealed. Jabir added: We used to practice coitus interruptus during the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle while the Quran was being Revealed.
    Sahih Bukhari 7:62:136

    When RAPING your captive, it’s better if you do not pull out at the end

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah’s Apostle he said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus(RAPE WITHOUT PREGNANCY)?” The Prophet said, “Do you really do that? It is better for you not to PULL OUT. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.”
    Sahih Bukhari 3:34:432
    Abu Said said, “We went with Allah’s Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the ‘Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah’s Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, “It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence.”

    Sahih Bukhari 3:46:718

    We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. ………
    We asked (him) about it and he said, “It is better for you not to PULL OUT, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”

    Sahih Bukhari 5:59:459

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured females and wanted sexual relation with them without impregnating them. So they asked the Prophet about coitus interruptus. He said, “It is better that you leave it in, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.” Qaza’a said, “I heard Abu Sa’id saying that the Prophet said, ‘No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.”

    Sahih Bukhari 9:93:506

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah’s Apostle about it and he said, “Do you really do that?” repeating the question thrice, “There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection.”

    Sahih Bukhari 7:62:137

    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That while he was sitting with the Prophet a man from the Ansar came and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?” Allah’s Apostle said, “Do you do that? It is better for you not to pull out, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created.”

    Sahih Bukhari 8:77:600

    Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-’azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3371, See also: Sahih Muslim 8:3372

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Rabia ibn Abi Abd ar-Rahman from Muhammad ibn Yahya ibn Habban that Ibn Muhayriz said, “I went into the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri and so I sat by him and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said al-Khudri said, ‘We went out with the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, on the expedition to the Banu al-Mustaliq. We took some Arabs prisoner, and we desired the women as celibacy was hard for us. We wanted the ransom, so we wanted to practise coitus interruptus. We said, ‘Shall we practise coitus interruptus while the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, is among us before we ask him?’ We asked him about that and he said, ‘You don’t have to not do it. There is no self which is to come into existence up to the Day of Rising but that it will come into existence.’ ”

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.95b

    It’s okay to practice ‘azl when having sex with your slave-girl
    Narrated AbuSa’id al-Khudri: A man said: Apostle of Allah, I have a slave-girl and I withdraw the penis from her (while having intercourse), and I dislike that she becomes pregnant. I intend (by intercourse) what the men intend by it. The Jews say that withdrawing the penis (azl) is burying the living girls on a small scale. He (the Prophet) said: The Jews told a lie. If Allah intends to create it, you cannot turn it away.

    Abu Dawud 11:2166

    Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported that a man came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I have a slave-girl who is our servant and she carries water for us and I have intercourse with her, but I do not want her to conceive. He said: Practise ‘azl, if you so like, but what is decreed for her will come to her. The person stayed back (for some time) and then came and said: The girl has become pregnant, whereupon he said: I told you what was decreed for her would come to her.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3383

    Your slave-girl is your field, so water it or leave it thirsty if you want
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Damra ibn Said al-Mazini from al-Hajjaj ibn Amr ibn Ghaziya that he was sitting with Zayd ibn Thabit when Ibn Fahd came to him. He was from the Yemen. He said, “Abu Said! I have slave-girls. None of the wives in my keep are more pleasing to me than them, and not all of them please me so much that I want a child by them, shall I then practise coitus interruptus?” Zayd ibn Thabit said, “Give an opinion, Hajjaj!” “I said, ‘May Allah forgive you! We sit with you in order to learn from you!’ He said, ‘Give an opinion! ‘I said, ‘She is your field, if you wish, water it, and if you wish, leave it thirsty. I heard that from Zayd.’ Zayd said, ‘He has spoken the truth.’ ”

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.99b

    “You don’t need your slave-girl’s permission to practice ‘azl with her.”
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Humayd ibn Qays al-Makki that a man called Dhafif said that Ibn Abbas was asked about coitus interruptus. He called a slave-girl of his and said, “Tell them.” She was embarrassed. He said, “It is alright, and I do it myself.” Malik said, “A man does not practise coitus interruptus with a free woman unless she gives her permission. There is no harm in practising coitus interruptus with a slave-girl without her permission. Someone who has someone else’s slave-girl as a wife, does not practise coitus interruptus with her unless her people give him permission.”

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.100b

    Additional Hadith about ‘azl

    Sahih Muslim

    Sa’d b. Abu Waqqas (Allah be pleased with him) reported that a person came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I do ‘azi with my wife. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Why do you do that? The person said: I fear harm to her child or her children. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (way peace be upon him) said: If that were harmful it would harm the Persians and the Greeks.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3394

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported: We took women captives, and we wanted to do ‘azl with them. We then asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) about it, and he said to us: Verily you do it, verily you do it, verily you do it, but the soul which has to be born until the Day of judgment must be born.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3373

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) (was asked if he had heard it himself), to which he said: Yes. (I heard) Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: There is no harm if you do not practise it, for it (the birth of the child) is something ordained (by Allah).

    Sahih Muslim 8:3374, See also: Sahih Muslim 8:3375

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) was asked about ‘azl, whereupon he said: There is no harm if you do not do that, for it (the birth of the child) is something ordained. Muhammad (one of the narrators) said: (The words) La ‘alaykum (there is no harm) implies its Prohibition.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3376

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported that mention was made of ‘azl in the presence of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) whereupon he said: Why do you practise it? They said: There is a man whose wife has to suckle the child, and if that person has a sexual intercourse with her (she may conceive) which he does not like, and there is another person who has a slave-girl and he has a sexual intercourse with her, but he does not like her to have conception so that she may not become Umm Walad, whereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: There is no harm if you do not do that, for that (the birth of the child) is something pre- ordained. Ibn ‘Aun said: I made a mention of this hadith to Hasan, and he said: By Allah, (it seems) as if there is upbraiding in it (for ‘azl).

    Sahih Muslim 8:3377, See also: Sahih Muslim 8:3378 and Sahih Muslim 8:3379

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported: Mention was made about al-’azl in the presence of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), whereupon he said: Why any one of you practises it? (He did not say: One of you should not do it), for there is no created soul, whose creator is not Allah.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3380

    Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about ‘azl, whereupon he said: The child does not come from all the liquid (sermen) and when Allah intends to create anything nothing can prevent it (from coming into existence).

    Sahih Muslim 8:3381, See also: Sahih Muslim 8:3382

    Jabir b. ‘Abdullah (Allah be pleased with them) reported that a person asked Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) saying: I have a slave-girl and I practise ‘azl with her, whereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: This cannot prevent that which Allah has decreed. The person then came (after some time) and said: Messenger of Allah, the slave-girl about whom I talked to you has conceived, whereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I am the servant of Allah and His Messenger.

    Sahih Muslim 8:3384

    Al-Muwatta

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu’n-Nadr, the mawla of Umar ibn Ubaydullah from Amir ibn Sad ibn Abi Waqqas from his father that he used to practise coitus interruptus.

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.96b

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu’n-Nadr, the mawla of Umar ibn Ubaydullah from Ibn Aflah, the mawla of Abu Ayyub al-Ansari from an umm walad of Abu Ayyubal-Ansari that he practised coitus interruptus.

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.97b

    Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar did not practise coitus interruptus and thought that it was disapproved.

    Al-Muwatta 29 32.98b

    Yahya said that Malik related from Ibn Shihab from Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar from his father that Umar ibn al-Khattab said, “What’s the matter with men who have intercourse with their slave-girls and then dismiss them? No slave-girl comes to me whose master confesses that he has had intercourse with her but that I connect her child to him, whether or not he has practised coitus interruptus or stopped having intercourse with her.”

    Al-Muwatta 36 23.24b

    Malik related to me from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd informed him that Umar ibn al-Khattab said, “What is the matter with men who have intercourse with their slave-girls and then leave them to go? No slave-girl comes to me whose master confesses that he has had intercourse with her but that I connect her child to him, whether or not he has practised coitus interruptus or left off from intercourse with her.” Yahya said that he heard Malik say, “What is done in our community about an umm walad who commits a crime is that her master is liable for what she has done up to her value. He does not have to surrender her, and he cannot be made to bear more than her value for her crime.”

    Al-Muwatta 36 23.25b

    • Lucky, you said :
      “The prophets—these Billy goats with long beards, cannot claim any intellectual or spiritual superiority. These Billy goats pretend to come with a message from God, all the while exhausting themselves in spouting their lies, and imposing on the masses blind obedience to the “words of the master.”

      Correct!! Did “Jesus” have a beard???

      • HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD IS ……A VOLCANO!!!

        Nahum 1:5-6 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

        WAS GOD A VOLCANO?

        YES! GOD – YHWH/MOLOCH/BAAL/ALLAH WAS A VOLCANO-VOLCANIC ACTIVITY!!

        List of Biblical verses that suggest God was a volcano

        This list of Bible verses that prove beyond all reasonable doubt god was a volcano will be regularly updated and re-circulated. If you would like to submit some verses for the collection then please add them as a comment.

        Exodus 3:12 And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, you will worship God on this mountain.”

        Exodus 13:21 By day the LORD went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night.

        Exodus 15:7 In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.

        Exodus 19:18 Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.

        Exodus 24:17 To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.

        Exodus: 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

        Exodus 40:38 So the cloud of the LORD was over the tabernacle by day, and fire was in the cloud by night, in the sight of all the Israelites during all their travels.

        Leviticus 9:24 Fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the fat portions on the altar. And when all the people saw it, they shouted for joy and fell facedown.

        Leviticus 10:2 So fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD.

        Leviticus 10:6 Then Moses said to Aaron and his sons Eleazar and Ithamar, “Do not let your hair become unkempt and do not tear your clothes, or you will die and the LORD will be angry with the whole community. But your relatives, all the Israelites, may mourn for those the LORD has destroyed by fire.

        Numbers 11:1 Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

        Numbers 11:3 So that place was called Taberah, because fire from the LORD had burned among them.

        Numbers 14:14 And they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, LORD, are with these people and that you, LORD, have been seen face to face, that your cloud stays over them, and that you go before them in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night.

        Numbers 16:35 And fire came out from the LORD and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.

        Numbers 26:10 The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them along with Korah, whose followers died when the fire devoured the 250 men. And they served as a warning sign.

        Deuteronomy 1:33 who went ahead of you on your journey, in fire by night and in a cloud by day, to search out places for you to camp and to show you the way you should go.

        Deuteronomy 4:11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness.

        Deuteronomy 4:12 Then the LORD spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice.

        Deuteronomy 4:15 You saw no form of any kind the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully.

        Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

        Deuteronomy 4:33 Has any other people heard the voice of God speaking out of fire, as you have, and lived?

        Deuteronomy 4:36 From heaven he made you hear his voice to discipline you. On earth he showed you his great fire, and you heard his words from out of the fire.

        Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.

        Deuteronomy 5:5 At that time I stood between the LORD and you to declare to you the word of the LORD, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.

        Deuteronomy 5:22 These are the commandments the LORD proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.

        Deuteronomy 5:23 When you heard the voice out of the darkness, while the mountain was ablaze with fire, all the leaders of your tribes and your elders came to me.

        Deuteronomy 5:24 And you said, “The LORD our God has shown us his glory and his majesty, and we have heard his voice from the fire. Today we have seen that a person can live even if God speaks with them.

        Deuteronomy 5:25 But now, why should we die? This great fire will consume us, and we will die if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any longer.

        Deuteronomy 5:26 For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived?

        Deuteronomy 9:3 But be assured today that the LORD your God is the one who goes across ahead of you like a devouring fire. He will destroy them; he will subdue them before you. And you will drive them out and annihilate them quickly, as the LORD has promised you.

        Deuteronomy 9:10 The LORD gave me two stone tablets inscribed by the finger of God. On them were all the commandments the LORD proclaimed to you on the mountain out of the fire, on the day of the assembly.

        Deuteronomy 9:15 So I turned and went down from the mountain while it was ablaze with fire. And the two tablets of the covenant were in my hands.

        Deuteronomy 10:4 The LORD wrote on these tablets what he had written before, the Ten Commandments he had proclaimed to you on the mountain, out of the fire, on the day of the assembly. And the LORD gave them to me.

        Deuteronomy 18:16 For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”

        Deuteronomy 33:2 He said: “The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.

        2 Samuel 22:9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

        Psalm 18

        “In my distress I called to the LORD;
        I called out to my God.
        From his temple he heard my voice;
        my cry came to his ears.
        8 The earth trembled and quaked,
        the foundations of the heavens
        shook;
        they trembled because he was angry.
        9 Smoke rose from his nostrils;
        consuming fire came from his mouth,
        burning coals blazed out of it.
        10 He parted the heavens and came down;
        dark clouds were under his feet.
        11 He mounted the cherubim and flew;
        he soared on the wings of the wind.

        12 He made darkness his canopy around him—
        the dark rain clouds of the sky.

        13 Out of the brightness of his presence
        bolts of lightning blazed forth.
        14 The LORD thundered from heaven;
        the voice of the Most High resounded.
        15 He shot his arrows and scattered the enemy,
        with great bolts of lightning he routed them.
        16 The valleys of the sea were exposed
        and the foundations of the earth laid bare
        at the rebuke of the LORD,
        at the blast of breath from his nostrils.

        Joshua 1011 As they fled before Israel on the road down from Beth Horon to Azekah, the Lord hurled large hailstones down on them, and more of them died from the hail than were killed by the swords of the Israelites.1. “hailstones” can also be translated to rocks according to Dr. Pigott.

        1 Kings 18:24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the LORD. The god who answers by fire—he is God.” Then all the people said, “What you say is good.”
        1 Kings 18:38 Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

        1 Kings 19:11 The LORD said, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD, for the LORD is about to pass by.” Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake. 12 After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. 13 When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.

        2 Kings 1:10 Elijah answered the captain, “If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty men!” Then fire fell from heaven and consumed the captain and his men.

        2 Kings 1:12 “If I am a man of God,” Elijah replied, “may fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty men!” Then the fire of God fell from heaven and consumed him and his fifty men.

        2 Kings 1:14 See, fire has fallen from heaven and consumed the first two captains and all their men. But now have respect for my life!”

        2 Kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

        (Chariot of fire was a metaphor for fire from a volcano).

        2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, “Open his eyes, LORD, so that he may see.” Then the LORD opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

        2 Chronicles 7:3 When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the glory of the LORD above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the LORD, saying, “He is good; his love endures forever.”

        Nehemiah 9:12 By day you led them with a pillar of cloud, and by night with a pillar of fire to give them light on the way they were to take.

        Nehemiah 9:19 “Because of your great compassion you did not abandon them in the wilderness. By day the pillar of cloud did not fail to guide them on their path, nor the pillar of fire by night to shine on the way they were to take.

        Job 1:16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”

        Job 20:25 Terrors will come over him;
        26 total darkness lies in wait for his treasures.

        A fire unfanned will consume him
        and devour what is left in his tent.
        27 The heavens will expose his guilt;
        the earth will rise up against him.

        Psalms 18

        In my distress I called to the LORD;
        I cried to my God for help.
        From his temple he heard my voice;
        my cry came before him, into his ears.
        7 The earth trembled and quaked,

        and the foundations of the mountains shook;
        they trembled because he was angry.
        8 Smoke rose from his nostrils;
        consuming fire came from his mouth,
        burning coals blazed out of it.
        9 He parted the heavens and came down;
        dark clouds were under his feet.
        10 He mounted the cherubim and flew;
        he soared on the wings of the wind.
        11 He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him—
        the dark rain clouds of the sky.
        12 Out of the brightness of his presence clouds advanced,
        with hailstones and bolts of lightning.
        13 The LORD thundered from heaven;
        the voice of the Most High resounded.[d]
        14 He shot his arrows and scattered the enemy,
        with great bolts of lightning he routed them.
        15 The valleys of the sea were exposed
        and the foundations of the earth laid bare
        at your rebuke, LORD,
        at the blast of breath from your nostrils.

        Psalm 21:9–When you appear for battle, you will burn them up as in a blazing furnace. The LORD will swallow them up in his wrath, and his fire will consume them.

        Psalm 50:3 Our God comes and will not be silent; a fire devours before him, and around him a tempest rages.

        Psalm 68:2 May you blow them away like smoke— as wax melts before the fire, may the wicked perish before God.

        Psalm 78:14 He guided them with the cloud by day and with light from the fire all night.

        Psalm 78:21 When the LORD heard them, he was furious; his fire broke out against Jacob, and his wrath rose against Israel.

        Psalm 79:5 How long, LORD? Will you be angry forever? How long will your jealousy burn like fire?

        Psalm 83:13-15

        13 Make them like tumbleweed, my God, like chaff before the wind. 14 As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze,15 so pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm.

        Psalm 97

        1 The LORD reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice.2 Clouds and thick darkness surround him;righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.3 Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side.4 His lightning lights up the world;the earth sees and trembles.5 The mountains melt like wax before the LORD,before the Lord of all the earth.6 The heavens proclaim his righteousness,and all peoples see his glory.

        Psalm 105:38-40
        38 Egypt was glad when they left,
        because dread of Israel had fallen on them.
        39 He spread out a cloud as a covering,
        and a fire to give light at night.
        40 They asked, and he brought them quail;
        he fed them well with the bread of heaven.

        Psalm 144:5 Part your heavens, LORD, and come down; touch the mountains, so that they smoke.

        Isaiah 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.

        Isaiah 4:5 Then the LORD will create over all of Mount Zion and over those who assemble there a cloud of smoke by day and a glow of flaming fire by night; over everything the glory will be a canopy.

        Isaiah 5:23-26
        23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe,
        but deny justice to the innocent.
        24 Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw

        and as dry grass sinks down in the flames,
        so their roots will decay
        and their flowers blow away like dust;
        for they have rejected the law of the LORD Almighty
        and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel.
        25 Therefore the LORD’s anger burns against his people;
        his hand is raised and he strikes them down.
        The mountains shake,
        and the dead bodies are like refuse in the streets.
        26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly.

        Isaiah 6:3-5 3 And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.”4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke.
        Isaiah 9:19 By the wrath of the LORD Almighty the land will be scorched and the people will be fuel for thefire; they will not spare one another.

        Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One a flame; in a single day it will burn and consume his thorns and his briers.

        Isaiah 26:11 LORD, your hand is lifted high, but they do not see it. Let them see your zeal for your people and be put to shame; let the fire reserved for your enemies consume them.

        Isaiah 29:6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

        Isaiah 30:27 See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.

        Isaiah 30:30 The LORD will cause people to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail.

        Isaiah 30:33 Topheth has long been prepared; it has been made ready for the king. Its fire pit has been made deep and wide, with an abundance of fire and wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of burning sulfur, sets it ablaze.

        Isaiah 31:9 Their stronghold will fall because of terror; at the sight of the battle standard their commanders will panic,” declares the LORD, whose fire is in Zion, whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

        Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are terrified; trembling grips the godless: “Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?”

        Isaiah 64:2 As when fire sets twigs ablaze and causes water to boil, come down to make your name known to your enemies and cause the nations to quake before you!

        Isaiah 65:5 who say, ‘Keep away; don’t come near me, for I am too sacred for you!’ Such people are smoke in my nostrils, a fire that keeps burning all day.

        Isaiah 66:15 See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

        Isaiah 66:16 For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment on all people, and many will be those slain by the LORD.

        Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!

        Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem, or my wrath will flare up and burn like fire because of the evil you have done— burn with no one to quench it.

        Jeremiah 5:14 Therefore this is what the LORD God Almighty says: “Because the people have spoken these words, I will make my words in your mouth a fire and these people the wood it consumes.

        Jeremiah 11:16 The LORD called you a thriving olive tree with fruit beautiful in form. But with the roar of a mighty storm he will set it on fire, and its branches will be broken.

        Jeremiah 23:29 “Is not my word like fire,” declares the LORD, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

        Jeremiah 25:37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

        Jeremiah 49:26-28 Surely, her young men will fall in the streets;all her soldiers will be silenced in that day,”declares the LORD Almighty.27 “I will set fire to the walls of Damascus; it will consume the fortresses of Ben-Hadad.”
        Lamentations 1:12-14
        12 “Is it nothing to you, all you who pass by?
        Look around and see.
        Is any suffering like my suffering
        that was inflicted on me,
        that the LORD brought on me
        in the day of his fierce anger?
        13 “From on high he sent fire,
        sent it down into my bones.
        He spread a net for my feet
        and turned me back.
        He made me desolate,
        faint all the day long.

        Lamentations 2:2-4
        2 Without pity the Lord has swallowed up
        all the dwellings of Jacob;
        in his wrath he has torn down
        the strongholds of Daughter Judah.
        He has brought her kingdom and its princes
        down to the ground in dishonor.
        3 In fierce anger he has cut off
        every horn[a][b] of Israel.
        He has withdrawn his right hand
        at the approach of the enemy.
        He has burned in Jacob like a flaming fire
        that consumes everything around it.

        Lamentations 4:11 The LORD has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that consumed her foundations.

        Ezekiel 7:8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.

        Ezekiel 22:31 So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign LORD.”

        Ezekeil 28:14
        You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones.

        Ezekeil 28:16
        Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.

        Enoch 17:1 They raised me up into a certain place, where there was (28) the appearance of a burning fire; and when they pleased they assumed the likeness of men.
        (28) Where there was. Or, “where they [the angels] were like” (Knibb, p. 103).

        Enoch 17:2 They carried me to a lofty spot, to a mountain, the top of which reach to heaven.

        Enoch 17:3 And I beheld the receptacles of light and of thunder at the extremities of the place, where it was deepest. There was a bow of fire, and arrows in their quiver, a sword of fire, and every species of lightning.

        Enoch 17:4 Then they elevated me to a babbling stream, (29) and to a fire in the west, which received all the setting of the sun. I came to a river of fire, which flowed like water, and emptied itself into the great sea westwards.

        Daniel 7:8-10
        8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
        9 “As I looked,
        “thrones were set in place,
        and the Ancient of Days took his seat.
        His clothing was as white as snow;
        the hair of his head was white like wool.
        His throne was flaming with fire,
        and its wheels were all ablaze.
        10 A river of fire was flowing,
        coming out from before him.
        Thousands upon thousands attended him;
        ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
        The court was seated,
        and the books were opened.

        Joel 2
        An Army of Locusts
        2 Blow the trumpet in Zion;
        sound the alarm on my holy hill.
        Let all who live in the land tremble,
        for the day of the LORD is coming.
        It is close at hand—
        2 a day of darkness and gloom,

        a day of clouds and blackness.
        Like dawn spreading across the mountains
        a large and mighty army comes,
        such as never was in ancient times
        nor ever will be in ages to come.

        3 Before them fire devours,
        behind them a flame blazes.
        Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,
        behind them, a desert waste—
        nothing escapes them.
        4 They have the appearance of horses;

        they gallop along like cavalry.
        5 With a noise like that of chariots
        they leap over the mountaintops,
        like a crackling fire consuming stubble,
        like a mighty army drawn up for battle.

        6 At the sight of them, nations are in anguish;
        every face turns pale.
        7 They charge like warriors;
        they scale walls like soldiers.
        They all march in line,
        not swerving from their course.
        8 They do not jostle each other;
        each marches straight ahead.
        They plunge through defenses
        without breaking ranks.
        9 They rush upon the city;
        they run along the wall.
        They climb into the houses;
        like thieves they enter through the windows.

        10 Before them the earth shakes,
        the heavens tremble,
        the sun and moon are darkened,
        and the stars no longer shine.
        11 The LORD thunders
        at the head of his army;
        his forces are beyond number,
        and mighty is the army that obeys his command.
        The day of the LORD is great;
        it is dreadful.
        Who can endure it?

        Amos 7:4 This is what the Sovereign LORD showed me: The Sovereign LORD was calling for judgment byfire; it dried up the great deep and devoured the land.

        Micah 1:3-5 Judgment Against Samaria and Jerusalem
        3 Look! The LORD is coming from his dwelling place;
        he comes down and treads on the heights of the earth.
        4 The mountains melt beneath him
        and the valleys split apart,
        like wax before the fire,
        like water rushing down a slope.

        Nahum 1:5-6 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

        Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

        Zephaniah 3:8 Therefore wait for me,” declares the LORD, “for the day I will stand up to testify. I have decided to assemble the nations, to gather the kingdoms and to pour out my wrath on them— all my fierce anger. The whole world will be consumed by the fire of my jealous anger.

        Zechariah 2:5 And I myself will be a wall of fire around it,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will be its glory within.’

        Matthew 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

        Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

        Matthew 17:14-16 14 When they came to the crowd, a man approached Jesus and knelt before him. 15 “Lord, have mercy on my son,” he said. “He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. 16 I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him.”

        Luke 3:16 John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 17 His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” 18 And with many other words John exhorted the people and proclaimed the good news to them.

        Luke 9:54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them ?”

        Luke 12:49 have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.

        Acts 2:18-20
        18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.

        2 Thessalonians 1:7 and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.

        Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”

        Hebrews 10:27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

        Hebrews 10:31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

        The Mountain of Fear and the Mountain of Joy (Hebrews 12)
        18 You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19 to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20 because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.”[c] 21 The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”[d]
        22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn,whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
        25 See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?26 At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.”[e] 27 The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.
        28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”[f]

        Hebrews 12:29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”

        2 Peter 3:7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

        2 Peter 3:12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.

        Revelation 9:2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.

        Revelation 11:5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.

        Revelation 11:19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

        Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death – the lake of fire.

        BIBLICAL METAPHORS
        Once you are able to see through the Biblical metaphors you will be able to look back at history and decipher events. Remove all the god dialogue and trim the stories back to reveal the facts. This is, of course, diametrically opposed to the approach taken by Biblical scholars who prefer to embelish further and stretch the poetic licence long past breaking point. Bring it back down to earth….
        ‘his chariots are like a whirlwind’ are tumbling ash clouds

        ‘He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.’ dito

        ‘He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!’ dito

        ‘raging furnace’ is the volcano

        ‘his tongue is a consuming fire’ is overflowing lava

        ‘holy ones’ are water vapour escaping from volcanic mountain slopes.

        ‘pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger’ means lava flowing and burning.

        ‘A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him’ means a lava flow coming out of the volcano.

        ‘pour out my wrath on you’ means pour out lava from the volcano.

        ‘a very loud trumpet blast’ is the noise a volcano makes before erupting afte the magma plug has been released.

        ‘dwelling in light unapproachable’ believing their god was inside the live volcano.

        ‘but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through’ means hit by shooting brimstone balls.

        ‘smoke out of his nostrils’ means smoke coming out of the top of the mountain where god was assumed to reside.

        ‘fire out of his mouth devoured’ means firey lava out of the mouth of the volcano.

        ‘burning with his anger’ means erupting volcano

        ‘his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire’ means overflowing lava.

        ‘And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly.’ means the erupting and hissing volcano will signal to others to go to it.

        ‘the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.’ means the volcano was threatening to erupt but didn’t.

        ‘furnace of fire’ means volcano

        ‘lake of fire’ lake of lava inside live volcano

        ‘unquenchable fire’ volcano

        ‘And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.’ means a fire flamed up in a lava vent or river when incence was thrown onto it.

        ‘God is a consuming fire’ means god is a volcano

        ‘You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.’ means a volcano erupted and killed some people.

        ‘To the Israelites the glory of the LORD looked like a consuming fire on top of the mountain.’ means they didn’t know what a volcano was when they saw one and thought it was instead their god making fire on top of a mountain. Mountain worship originated from volcano worship because it was assumed all tall mountains could attract a magician to reside in it.

        ‘Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side.’ means lava rivers flow out from the volcano and kill people all around.

        ‘The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the LORD.’ peaceful meadows will be devasted by an eruption.

        ‘thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.’ clothes/hair = clouds, throne = top of erupting volcano.

        ‘The heavens will disappear with a roar’ heavens = clouds in the sky…also small clouds of smoke above the volcano described as heaven. (heaven as a place for the afterlife started later. There was no suggestion of an afterlife during the time of ‘the mountain of god’.)

        ‘the earth shook, the heavens poured down rain, before God, the One of Sinai’ heaven = clouds

        ‘”The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.’ lots of erupting volcanoes and water vapour leaks.

        ‘The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them along with Korah,’ a crack in the ground caused by techtonic plate shift or an earthquack….notice the lack of the use of ‘His’ or ‘He’. It’s just ‘the earth’ and not ‘He opened His mouth’.

        ‘fire devours before him, and around him a tempest rages.’ lava flows devour outside of the volcano and inside a fire rages.

        ‘When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.’ a volcano

        ‘When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke’ trumpeting noise coming from erupting volcano.

        ‘pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light’ means at night they could see the pillar of fire from the volcano and during the day a pillar of smoke.

        ‘voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder’ means the noise from an erupting volcano.

        ‘There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up.’ angels = flaming gas leaks on the slopes of the volcano Mt Sinai.

        In addition, hail in the Bible is sometimes volcanic hail, ‘holy smoke’ may well have been a metaphor for ‘divine’ smoke from volcanoes, ‘My Rock’ could have refered to the volcano deity and ‘His Holy Temple’ and ‘Holy Hill’ were certainly describing Mt Sinai.

        There are different types of volcanoes and in Saudi, which was a mecca for volcano worship, the volcanoes tend to be oil based and therefore do not produce ash. The camp would have to have dealt with ‘his rivers of fire’, brimstone, smoke, lightning, earthquakes (outstretched arm) and noise….like a ‘trumpet blast’.

        Remember that these people did not see volcanoes as dangerous inconveniences. These were red lights for ‘God in residence’. They wouldn’t up and leave when their god was around. They would just be awestruck and hopeful their god was not going to execute them for their misdeeds.

        So, your questions, ‘Have I researched what happens when a volcano erupts’, which was obviously a bit sarcastic, can be answered with a ‘Yes, and more’. I’ve also researched how people perceived volcanoes.

        Moses might not even have existed. If someone did walk up a volcano and claimed to have see their god face to face then that would not be unusual amongst volcano god devotees and certainly not amongst the ‘priesthood’ who were probably in those days high on something. Don’t assume a priest then was the same as a priest now, the priests then responsibly for administering some ‘divine’ punishments. Not very holy.

        They saw their god and they ate with him and told someone about it who added that they did a little dance and then someone else wrote about it and added that they did a little dance and drank wine and got merry with a handful of virgins.

        Come on. Try to decipher truth from fiction. It is possible. It just takes a good insight into the volcano god mindset and discernment.

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