Mushafiq Sultan a Cheater

Mushafiq Sultan a Cheater

Many People said to me, that Mushafiq Sultan, owner of IHIedits the comments, which users posts to  refute his claim. I had doubts regarding this, but recently he did this with my comments too.  All this started, when I visited his site, and started commenting on one of his post called, The Miracle of the Prophet’s ‘Night Journey’ (Al-Isra wa Al-Miraj). I found it contradicting Koranic Teachings, as Koran suggests that Muhammad was incapable of doing any miracles, so I posted my comment on his post. Here is what I posted.

MY POST :

Can I ask, why my comment was deleted. It was relevant with your post and with proper back up with evidence from Qur’an. Now Let me re-post, and see will you delete it again, like a coward.

In this post, the author says,

“But the miracle of al-Isra’ was unlike all these other miracles in that no one except Muhammad (SAW) saw it being performed, and it was not aimed at strengthening the believers’ faith. In fact many of them did not believe Muhammad (SAW) when he told them of it”

But, Qur’an suggests that Prophet was unable to perform any Miracle. Lets see the evidence..

The unbelievers repeatedly asked Muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was,

They say: “We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth, Q. 17: 90

His (Muhammad) response was:

Say: “Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?” Q. 17: 93

This shows, what Muhammad used to reply, when Dis-Believers asked for miracles, from him.
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Further, on one more occasion, when disbelievers asked for miracles, see what happened:-

See verse 13:7, which says:-
And those who disbelieved say, “Why has a sign not been sent down to him from his Lord?” You are only a warner, and for every people is a guide.

So, whenever he was asked for miracle, he denied. But why now Muslims attribute millions of Miracle to Muhammad?

Mushafiq’s Reply:

Primarily, it is not the job of a Prophet to perform miracles. The mission of a Prophet was to deliver the message as he received it from his Lord. In doing so, many times the people of vested interests tried to put hurdles in the deliverance of the message. They did not want that people should listen to them because the moment ordinary people listened to the Prophet they used to get attracted to the message. So these arrogant people used to demand miracles as a precondition for believing in the message. However, when some miracles were shown they sought other excuses to reject them like claiming that it was magic.

Now let me address the faults in your questions

The unbelievers repeatedly asked Muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was,

They say: “We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth, Q. 17: 90

His response was:

Say: “Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?” Q. 17: 93

This shows, what Muhammad used to reply, when Dis-Believers asked for miracles, from him.

Yes this was one of the responses because Allah knew that they wont believe even after seeing a miracle. But that does not mean that NO MIRACLES were performed. That is your wrong conclusion. Just because some times the demand of miracles was rejected does not prove that no miracles were performed. That is your wrong understanding.

When signs did come as in Qur’an 54:2-3, “they turn away and say: Strong enchantment! And they deny and follow their low desires.”

So your argument is invalid

The Quran even mentions few miracles. The clefting of the moon–(54:1-2) was to prove to the disbelievers the falsity of their oaths, that if a sign came to them they would believe–(Qur’an 6:110)

The only miracle the Prophet Mohammad claimed to bring was the Qur’an. The claim of the Qur’an, that it would baffle human efforts to produce its equal, is based on absolute truth. A Book completed in twenty-three years, dealing with every aspect of human life, and yet remaining free from any kind of discrepancy or even a slight variation, is in itself a miracle.

The Miraj about which this article is written was itself a miracle. This is alluded to in the Qur’an in Surah 17:1

Glory to (Allah) Who did take His Servant for Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did Bless — in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things).

The details are mentioned in the Hadith Narratives.

 He further Added:-

Even the Battle of Badr was a miracle, witnessed by the striving Muslims who were sincere and committed to the cause of truth.

The Qur’an mentions

Al-i-Imran 3:123–125 “Allah had helped you at Badr, when ye were a contemptible little force; then fear Allah; thus May ye show your gratitude. Remember thou saidst to the Faithful: “Is it not enough for you that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (Specially) sent down? “Yea, – if ye remain firm, and act aright, even if the enemy should rush here on you in hot haste, your Lord would help you with five thousand angels Making a terrific onslaught.

Al-i-Imran 3:13 . “There has already been for you a Sign in the two armies that met (in combat): One was fighting in the cause of Allah, the other resisting Allah; these saw with their own eyes Twice their number. But Allah doth support with His aid whom He pleaseth. In this is a warning for such as have eyes to see.”

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This is OK till yet, I have posted my comment, and he replied. But what next he did, is going to expose him. To his reply I posted my rebuttal, on 28/03/2012, at 11:47 a.m. But my comment is not yet, posted in his page. Next will be my comment rebuttal to his reply, with evidence of my comment.

My Reply:-

@ Mushafiq Sultan,

 As per your statement, every man can claim himself to be Prophet. You said, “Primarily, it is not the job of a Prophet to perform miracles. The mission of a Prophet was to deliver the message as he received it from his Lord.”

 In those days, people demanded proof when anyone claimed himself to be a Prophet. In now a days, no one claims to be a Prophet, because they know they will be exposed. Even, you see Qur’an itself attests that all the earlier Prophets, used to do miracles, when people needed or asked for. As such see Qur’an 5:112-114, which says:-

[And remember] when the disciples said, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the heaven? [Jesus] said,” Fear Allah , if you should be believers.”

They said, “We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its witnesses.”

Said Jesus, the son of Mary, “O Allah , our Lord, send down to us a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide for us, and You are the best of providers.”

 This shows, that Jesus was able to perform Miracles. In one place Qur’an gives all godly power to Jesus, see 3:49:-

And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead – by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.

 Qur’an 3:46 says,

“He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous.”

 So Jesus was able to perform all sought of miracles, and even Moses too, see 26:62-63..

 It is sufficient to Prove that all prophets before Muhammad, performed Miracles to prove their Prophet-hood. Now, let’s come to your claim.

 You said, “Yes this was one of the responses because Allah knew that they wont believe even after seeing a miracle. But that does not mean that NO MIRACLES were performed.”

 This is a white lie, I say. Because, in Qur’an itself Allah says, that he is the reason for disbelief.

 You quoted verse 6:110, now Muslims tricks are on them. See the context first.

 Quran 6:107 says:-

 But if Allah had willed, they would not have associated. And We have not appointed you over them as a guardian, nor are you a manager over them.

 Allah did not willed to make them(Idolaters) Muslim. In 6:109, the idolaters  demanded Miracles from Muhammad.

 And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that if a sign came to them, they would surely believe in it. Say, “The signs are only with Allah .” And what will make you perceive that even if a sign came, they would not believe.

 To this Allah replied:-

 And We will turn away their hearts and their eyes just as they refused to believe in it the first time. And We will leave them in their transgression, wandering blindly.

 Lastly, see what 6:111 says:-

 And even if We had sent down to them the angels [with the message] and the dead spoke to them [of it] and We gathered together every [created] thing in front of them, they would not believe unless Allah should will. But most of them, [of that], are ignorant.

 So, this is Allah’s will that even if he sent all proofs, idolaters will not believe, because Allah does not wanted to make them believers..

Further I said:-

Now moving to Historic context of these verse, which claim Muhammad was unable to perform Miracles..

On one occasion, Quraysh asked Muhammad this:-

“do something which would prove to them that he was a messenger from God, and which would at the same time make life easier for them. “Ask thy Lord.to remove from us these mountains which hem us round and to flatten for us our land and to make rivers flow through it even as the rivers of Syria and Iraq; and to raise for us some of our forefathers, Qusayy amongst them, that we may ask them if what thou sayest be true or false. Or if thou wilt not do these things for us, then ask favours for thyself. Ask God to send with thee an Angel who shall confirm thy words and give us the lie. And ask Him to bestow on thee gardens and palaces and treasures of gold and silver, that we may know how well thou standest with thy Lord.” The Prophet answered them, saying: “I am not one to ask of his Lord the like of such things, nor was I sent for that, but God hath sent me to warn and give good tidings.” Refusing to listen, they said: “Then make fall the sky in pieces on our heads,” in scornful reference to the already revealed verse: IfWe will, We shall make the earth gape and swallow them, or make fall the firmament in pieces upon them? “That is for God to decide,” he said. “If He will, He will do it.”

 From [Muhammad- and his life, by Martin Lings, Pg no:- 75]

 Here Muhammad clearly denied to show any Miracle and even denied to do what was revealed in Qur’an and left on God.In fact all the Meccan Sura’s have plenty of verses, in which Dis-believers asks for Miracles from Muhammad, and he only replied that he is a mere Human, and can’t perform Miracles.

 Here is one more verse from Qur’an, which proves my point, see 10:20, which says:-

 And they say, “Why is a sign not sent down to him from his Lord?” So say, “The unseen is only for Allah [to administer], so wait; indeed, I am with you among those who wait.”

Now, the clever prophet asked them to wait till? May be till day of Judgement. Isn’t it?

So there is plenty of resources from Qur’an to prove that Muhammad was unable to perform any miracles, and he asked disbelievers to wait till Judgement day. This shows, that Prophet Night Journey and splitting of Moon is Hoax..

Regards..

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This comment of mine is not yet, published by him on his site, which readers can see, visiting the post, which I have mentioned above. Also see the below picture.
 The computer task-bar shows the Date and Time of the post. But today is 30th of March 2012, and my comment is not yet approved by Mushafiq. But yes, he does approve those comment, which praises him. For instance see this:-

By Abdul Aalee, on 29th March 2012 ( AFTER MY COMMENT)

Great Post..  Keep Working Sir.

This is a request to all IHI fans, to ask Mushafiq to approve my comment, or to remove the post.

Now, I have another good evidence, which will expose Mushafiq’s character. Just see this picture which follows next.

Update (13th April 2012)

Mushafiq invents a new lie, to fool his viewers and Muslim fans. He publishes a new post in which he says, “The commenting system of this website is having some problems. We are trying to rectify the problems and hopefully it will be working soon. — Administration”

Well its very easy to prove he is lying. The very first thing, which  we should notice is that, he posted this article on 10th of April, 2012 which can seen here. Now let’s wait and see till when he resolves this problem. Second thing, Mushafiq  owns 3 websites, one of which is Mirror site of his Islam Hinduism Initiative, which can be accessed here. I tried posting me unapproved comment in his other site, but it is again not yet published. Now, all I can do is to wait for his reply.

 

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8 thoughts on “Mushafiq Sultan a Cheater

  1. He also deleted my lengthy reply to him on I&H initiative and its page on Facebook. The best method to defeat Islam is just to disseminate the truth of Quran to the young Muslim masses. When they will come to know that Quran commands violence, approves rape and plunder, and is a hate speech, most of them will leave Islam after some deliberation.

    • Brother Puneet,

      This shows how dishonest Mushafiq is. This also exposes his knowledge about Comparative religion. Because he only chooses to block those comments, which he can’t refute or reply.

      Regards..

    • Sir,

      Your work is appreciable. Please spread the word. Write on weblogs and refute him as many times as you like. When we say that Agniveer is truth, Muslims show Mushafiq. Unless and untill Mushafiq Shaitaan is refuted, we won’t sit in peace.

      Eradicate barbarism from its roots.
      Thanks

  2. Rahul,

    The folks in IHI are known to delete comments that expose their hollowness or try responding with name calling. My user id on IHI was Apolloreach. And I had a lengthy discussion w/ IHI on their post called Textual Corruption of Vedas (http://www.islamhinduism.com/responses/answering-agniveer/116-debunking-agniveer-textual-corruption-in-vedas)

    My last reponse in the comments section was deleted. Somehow, IHI believes that their “last word” is wha counts. They deleted my last response alone and it would appear as if IHI had the last word. The following comment of mine, after Mushafiq’s last response to me appeared and then disappeared 🙂

    “@ Mushafiq, parking aside your goof up above on the number of half verses in RV, let me move forward with my response.

    It is your conjecture that the original samhita of RV is not available. The original samhita that you claim is lost is actually living with us in the same form it was aeons ago. If you claim something is lost, then you ought to revert with details on how the lost RV samhitas differed with what we have today in the form of 1028 hymns in content and arrangement. The samhitas of samhita shakas are different recensions of one and the same original collection of hymns. As we saw above it is not as if the Bhaskala and Shakhala smahitas are chalk and cheese. They are the one & the same source of truth.

    Pratishakya is futile to you ‘cuz it flies in the face of those that claim that Vedas were not secured and were corrupted. Pratishakya is a cook book,for outsiders,to understand how to protect a whole corpus of literature that was passed to generations by recitals. When other languages in the world were not even there, we had Pratisakhyas that were explaining nouns,prepositions, particles, formation of compound words, conjunctions and the conjugation of words while reciting. So when you claim Vedas to be corrupted textually but refuse to acknowledge the role of Pratisakhya, it shows the duplicity of your claim.And please point to me as to what was false (as you claim) about what I stated in my previous post on Pratishakya.

    And on the number of verses you have only repeated what I already mentioned. Quoting Anukramani lands me in no difficulty, as you claim. Before I explain why, you need to understand a couple of basic points. 1) The Sakala samhita is THE RV samhita.In addition to the Shakala and Baskala, we also have the Asvalayana with us. When we compare the three Samhitas, the latter two have additional hymns. Asvalayana samhita has 200+ additional riks but the arrangement of hymns is pretty much like that of the Shakala samhita. And if you read Saunaka’s work you will know that Saisiriya samhita is a subset of the Shakala samhita.It is pertient to repeat the point here that RV samhita shakhas were nothing but different recensions
    of one and the same original collection of hymns and could be distinguished from each other by the arrangement and / or the number of hymns. 2) You may not know a piece of esoteric information. Even today, it is common among many Purohit families to address someone behaving in a haphazard way to be a bhaskali. Again, be it Saunaka’s work or Katayana’s work indicate that only Bhaskala samhita was arranged differently (in a haphazard manner) from other samhitas. So once again, different RV samhitas are not chalk and cheese but the contents were the same and some like Bhaskala and Asvalyana had additional hymns, on topo of the vulgate Shakala samhita.

    Now to the count of mantras. You missed out the basis on which I arrived at the count.The count was based on indices of both Saunaka and Katayana of the reconciled samhita of Shakala and Baskala. And you quoted Charanavyuha that was exclusive to a pratishakya. So we are loking at two different sources of base data, while making our pooints.

    And in your approach to indicing of RV based on the works of Saunaka you miss a basic point. The indices of Saunaka are based on 5 different dimensions. And it is not about one single count for which the indicing was done but it was about establishing the accountability of the samhita using different dimensions. So, to expect that the same magic number will be the final count of mantras in a samhita is an incorrect approach.Rather what the 5 ways of indicing tries to establish is the veracity of the number of mantra meters (like Gayatri or Anustub), the number of families of sages, the number of divinities, the number of anvukas and the number of suktas.

    Look at your own double standard. When one of your caliphs burns down multiple manuscripts of Quran and chooses what he wishes to keep as the final one, you would accept it gleefully but when 8 hymns are resolved by Saunaka you claim that humans have corrupted RV.If you are kosher with the former, then you cannot claim that the latter is haram.

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    On YV, I stand by what I stated. Unless you understand the role of Adhravyu priests and there by the drift of YV, you will be involved in a wild goos chase. And it does not matter what Agniveer opines on YV.And I never stated that Brahmanas were revealed either. You assumed so.

    And Vajasneyi samhita is THE samhita of Shukla Yajur Veda and Madhyandina and Kanva are the branches of the Shukla Yajur Veda. And why do you think that the presence of Krishna Yajur Veda disproves the sanctity of Shukla Yajur Veda? Again, you are unaware of the role of the Shukla and Krishna Yahur Veda recensions based on the rites. One gives primacy to Vishnu and the other gives primacy to Rudra of the the supreme Vedic triad.So what is your beef?

    On Nirukt, I do not have to prove anything wrong, based on your incorrect understanding behind the purpose of Nirukt.A work of lexicography cannot be used to establish something that is philological in nature. You are trying to drive a round peg into a square hole.”

    • Apollo Reach Sir,

      नमस्कार

      It is really great to see a scholar like you commenting here. Well, I appreciate that you came here to refute that terrorist. I just have a request to you.

      Please mail in your detailed response to me. Try to include everything whatever you have written so far. I will put it on my blog and upload it to as many sources as I can. I myself thought of refuting that terrorist but unfortunately, I am not a scholar of Vedas. Here is my email id

      Namaskaar@india.com

      You can mail me your response as and when you wish.
      धन्यवाद ।

  3. Sultan OR Shaitaan???

    I guess – Shaitaan himself. He is supporter of barbarism and terrorism. We need true humans like you. Keep it up.

    Thanks

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